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In the Bible, are there ever verses that say that Jesus "lost" his life, as opposed to "gave" it?

Asked by stagayote54 (123points) August 29th, 2010

Are there any verses that say that Jesus “lost” his life, instead of he “gave” it?

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josie's avatar

I thought the idea was that he really lost nothing, but simply returned to the mystical Netherworld from which he originated in the first place. If Jesus actually died and rotted away, there would be no Christianity. Answer, no. Of course not.

JLeslie's avatar

The whole book is translated, meaning could have been lost in translation. Would it make a diference? Either way, in the story, he is standing for his principles. Either he was willing to die for them, or he gave his life for them. It really is the same thing.

Randy's avatar

@josie Actually the story goes that he was killed on the cross and went to hell for three days. On the third day, he arose from the grave to symbolize his triumph over hell and satan. He didn’t go back to heaven until his ascension later.

No. It doesn’t say he lost it because he self-sacrificed himself. In the story, he didn’t have to be killed. Back in the old testimate, people had to make sacrifices to God so that he would forgive them of their sins. Jesus was meant to be the ultimate sacrifice for all of mankind. God didn’t make him do it though. If he didn’t want to, he could have called on God to smite everyone and save him. He didn’t so it’s considered that he gave his life instead of it being taken from him.

…Or so the story goes.

Trillian's avatar

No. He gave it up to the cross and went as a willing sacrifice. In hell the demons gnashed their teeth because of what he had accomplished. Strategically speaking, it was a master stroke.

lillycoyote's avatar

We’re talking about actual passages of scripture here, yes? Not what anyone thinks it all means right.

I’m not sure it even says either one Jesus gave his life.

John 3:16 (King James Version)

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Here it indicates that God did the giving, it seems, not Jesus

And @JLeslie is right. You would have to read the bible in it’s original languages to be sure.

AmWiser's avatar

No, there are no verses in the bible where that is stated or implied.

stagayote54's avatar

Thank you everyone for your responses. I am trying to catch up with my bible studies, and this verse struck me, and I felt the need to question this, as the lesson cited a veteran’s response to the “loss” of his arm. This veteran said that he “gave” his arm. It kind of puts sacrifice into perspective…

chyna's avatar

Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

Trillian's avatar

@stagayote54 I don’t want to argue with a fellow veteran, but I would speculate that if he had been given a choice, he would have kept his arm.
I remember a newscaster calling the 9/11 victime “heroes”. I try to take nothing away from them but again, I would speculate that had they been given a choice, they would have elected to remain alive. The difference in the above mentioned story is that he knew what he was going to, what would happen to him, and he chose to go forward with it.
Yeah, I was raised in a Pentecostal home. I don’t profess to really practice exactly the way some of these over the top people do, but I know the stories and the concepts.

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