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Does IQ matter?

Asked by SherlockPoems (696 points ) March 28th, 2009

It has been said that the Bell Curve for IQ has shifted 15 points (the standard deviation) to the left. Thus what was 85 (or left of center) is now viewed as 100 (or center). “Intelligence is a very general mental capability that, among other things, involves the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly and learn from experience. It is not merely book learning, a narrow academic skill, or test-taking smarts. Rather, it reflects a broader and deeper capability for comprehending our surroundings—“catching on,” “making sense” of things, or “figuring out” what to do. A high IQ is an advantage in life because virtually all activities require some reasoning and decision-making. Conversely, a low IQ is often a disadvantage, especially in disorganized environments.”

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rooeytoo's avatar

Well I think you have just answered your own question and I agree.

YARNLADY's avatar

The question is incomplete. Does it matter for what? I have a very high I Q, and my brother is at the opposite end of the bell curve. He takes longer to learn things and needs more help “catching on” than I do. Does that matter? I don’t think so, do you?

Lupin's avatar

Take out all the PC stuff and anecdotes describing poverty stricken high IQ folks vs. wealthy moderate IQers. Here’s how you can decide the answer for yourself. Would you rather have a high IQ or a low one? They also say size doesn’t matter but would you rather do battle with a long sword or a short one?

Kraken's avatar

Apparently not to be president. Dubya was elected twice. My gods people, what were you thinking there?

DrasticDreamer's avatar

IQ doesn’t matter when you’re living in a nation of morons who have control, simply because there are more of them than there are smart people.

Okay, okay… I’ll post a real answer once I’ve had some sleep. Off to bed now.

Kraken's avatar

@DrasticDreamer I like your style. You know what’s up. Good rest to you!

Haroot's avatar

In my opinion, it’s a system. It requires several parts. For example myself. I have an IQ of about 150 or so (Been a while. Probably went down.) Not that bad but despite such I’m probably a C student at best, horrible at anything exceeding basic logic or mindless monkey work and am very surprised I made it into a non-community college. Among many reasons I think it’s because I have a horrid work ethic.

So basically, it’s only part of it. You need to properly apply it. Don’t be like me.

Kraken's avatar

@Haroot Words well applied shall not be denied…I shan’t continue here.

Harp's avatar

It’s an advantage, yes, whenever complex problems need to be dealt with. But it’s no substitute for compassion, persistence, generosity, fidelity, etc… the cluster of qualities that we sometimes call “character”. An intelligent asshole is still an asshole.

It’s kind of like physical beauty: we all want it and admire it, and it can bring many advantages to those who have it. But if that’s all you’ve got going for you, then you’re not much of a human being.

fireside's avatar

That’s pretty much exactly what I was going to say, Harp. (as usual)

Emotional Intelligence plays a big part in how you use what smarts you have.
Some people can process quickly, but only use it to be contentious.

ABoyNamedBoobs03's avatar

like all things, I think it’s relative. look at it this way. If you have the Head but not the Heart, you will always fail. But, if you have the Heart but not the head, still anything is possible.
When I was growing up I would always ace my tests and all that nonsense, but never do any of the homework or study or any of the stuff that actually matters, always figured I could just get by on my intelligence. The only thing that I’ve really struggled to learn in my whole life is that hard work and passion are far more important than what you could ever score on an SAT or IQ test. I still get a little lazy every once in a while but I’ve done much better with myself ever since I got over myself in that regard.

VzzBzz's avatar

@Harp
@ABoyNamedBoobs03
I agree with these and would like to add:

In my observations, people put more emphasis on and take more pride in developing their intellectual aptitude more so than emotional range/growh.

hammernail's avatar

IQ does matter. It classifies your “ability”. If your IQ is too low it REALLY matters, because then you’re developmentally disabled. I don’t think it matters much when you’re in the “average” range, but once you get too low or too high it changes things.

Mr_M's avatar

Without some CREATIVITY you’ve got nothing.

Sakata's avatar

IQ tests are stupid

The_Compassionate_Heretic's avatar

I don’t think iq is entirely accurate when deteiming how intelligent a person is but there’s no way to accurately measure an abstract like that.

Sakata's avatar

You can always try PQ2.

Darwin's avatar

As others have said in various ways, higher IQ certainly can be a useful survival tool and a very low IQ can make life very hard to understand, but emotional IQ, “common sense,” and determination greatly affect the outcome.

The ability to be happy with who you are and with your achievements probably trumps everything once you get past basic survival.

dearest_prudence's avatar

not IQ alone, you would also need to include EQ if the two together are high, you should have it made, one is not as good alone as people think. A high IQ don’t really mean much
I was a genius in high school, am no longer, but my high IQ was a waste because my EQ was average or low

RedPowerLady's avatar

Intelligence is important. However IQ does not accurately measure intelligence. IQ is a standardized test. As we all know standardized testing has extreme flaws. And standardized testing was set up in a way that allows people from certain classes and ethnic groups to thrive while others don’t do so well. Being someone from a culture other than the majority I would have to yell that “no IQ does not matter” because it has bias inherent in it’s test.

2corgis's avatar

Sure it’s important. However, I echo an earlier responder: important for what? If we are talking about academic success, then IQ is important, but perhaps more important is work ethic. If we are talking about career success, then I would concur with a ton of research that leads one to conclude that “emotional intelligence” trumps IQ: the awareness of and the ability to manage self and others in a variety of situations. So, is IQ important? Of course. But, it is worthless without task commitment and the ability to collaborate.

Blondesjon's avatar

It’s not the size of your IQ that is important. It’s how you use it.

dearest_prudence's avatar

@Blondesjon I think I can agree w/that
lol

AlfredaPrufrock's avatar

Any time you deviate too far from the norm, be it high or low, “special needs” develop. Adaptation to mainstream can be problematic, high or low.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

I will say intelligence, the way I pick up on it and the way I define it, matters to me but to define it would be difficult for me, still…especially in friendships and relationships, i have to be with someone who’s my intellectual equal but they don’t have to have a similar educational background or anything and I never know their IQ numbers

DREW_R's avatar

What I have found from alot of people with high IQ’s is that they have little common sense. That said, I would say no.

Pol_is_aware's avatar

Having an extremely high IQ is more distracting than anything. You see, thinking is highly addictive.

adreamofautumn's avatar

I think it depends on the context. Also people with insanely high IQ’s sometimes are screwed socially. It’s a hard balance between being very bright and being “too smart for your own good”. So i’m going to go with “context matters” as my answer. hehe makes me think of my professor regularly shouting at the class “historical context matters in every question!

essieness's avatar

A high IQ is useless if you choose to do nothing with it. I don’t mean career-wise, necessarily, but you need to feed your brain in some way. That said, an IQ shouldn’t become a determining factor for how a person should live their life, on either end of the spectrum.

I have what is considered to be a pretty high IQ, and from a young age, it was pounded into me that I was a “smart kid” and I always had to do well at everything. It was a lot of pressure. After high school, I pretty much gave up on school for a while because I was so burned out. Only in the past few years have I gotten back to my desire to learn and grow intellectually.

essieness's avatar

@DREW_R Hey! I resemble that remark!

amanderveen's avatar

IQ was originally designed to rank students’ abilities so they could be placed in the most appropriate learning environments for them. 100 was the number chosen to represent the average. Unfortunately, IQ was very quickly used to stigmatize students rather than just assess their needs.

In more recent years, countless people have argued about the validity of the tests, whether they’re culturally biased and whether they are generally relevant. From what I’ve read, EQ has far more to do with a person’s “success” in life than IQ does.

adreamofautumn's avatar

@essieness I had that “smart kid” pressure too. Nothing like ruining a love for learning in some poor kid. It took me awhile to remember why I love school too.

wundayatta's avatar

Just so you know, I think you got it the wrong way around. We get smarter generation by generation. So what used to earn you a 100, now gets you only an 85. They have to recalibrate the test every twenty years or so. Maybe more often. Otherwise 100 moves into the less smart side of the bell curve, and there are too many above-average intelligences.

As to what IQ measures, I have no idea. Most people I know who brag of being in MENSA, are not people I like. They have been full of themselves, and place overmuch prestige in being smart, according to the tests. Often, they seem particularly maladroit.

I believe that anyone who uses IQ tests as a way to sort people out is making a mistake. The only good way to know how a person will do, is to have them try to do it, whatever it is. I think past history, and past accomplishments mean much, much more than IQ tests. Well, that’s not quite true. The higher one scores on IQ, the less socially intelligent they seem to be.

Personally, I have no idea whether I even have an IQ, much less what number it might be. I have no desire to know, either. I find IQ to be divisive, and lets people sort themselves out and lord it over those with less IQ, and I don’t see any constructive use for it at all. Rodney King uttered that now-clicheed phrase, “why can’t we all get along?” One reason is that people believe in IQ.

YARNLADY's avatar

@daloon being a braggart of any kind is a turnoff for most people. It is not limited to someone bragging about IQ, or bragging about being taller than other people, or stronger, or any other attribute. This question might lend itself to singling out high IQ braggers, but every flavor of braggart is the same in my book.

wundayatta's avatar

True, @Yarnlady. I particularly despise braggarts such as found in advertising or salespeople. However, as you point out, this dislike is off-topic.

essieness's avatar

I hope I didn’t come off as bragging… I was just trying to provide my input :(

YARNLADY's avatar

@essieness I can’t think of any answer or comment to a question as asked that is bragging. Bragging would be more like putting extraneous remarks that imply an answer is more valuable because the person making it is better than other people. When made in jest, or as part of the general discussion, it’s not.

Ria777's avatar

@Kraken, @DrasticDreamer: you have mixed up intelligence and ethics. George W. Bush has smarts. he just misapplied them.

Ria777's avatar

@DrasticDreamer, smarts matter more the more drastic the circumstances. so I entirely disagree.

Ria777's avatar

@SherlockPoems, where did you get your information claiming a fifteen point shift?

mattbrowne's avatar

Yes, it does. But the EQ is equally important.

Ria777's avatar

from my observations, people with high EQ have high general intelligence. EQ, by the way, seems to measure your perception of the right thing to do, rather than your ability to do it. ( I scored something like 160 on my EQ but I don’t put that knowledge into practice.)

Ria777's avatar

so to answer the original post, I feel certain that the drop in scores has some relationship with the obesity epidemic, or rather the malnutrition epidemic, as an effect, a cause or both. particularly scary, you not only affect your health but the health of the child you have in vitro.

amanderveen's avatar

When I’ve looked at EQ before, the test I looked at broke down the results into a knowledge EQ (whether you know the ideal way to deal with a situation) and practical EQ (whether you actually do deal ideally in a situation). People with a high practical EQ tend to be people with “street smarts”. High practical EQ has apparently been found to be a better indicator of economic success than a high IQ.

I know I’ve met plenty of people who were incredibly smart, but who did not interact well with people – which definitely crippled them at work since most jobs require working with others in some capacity. I’ve also met others who are just really charismatic and quite successful, even if they weren’t geniuses.

I gathered from what I read that the practical EQ scores were a better success barometer than IQ, providing that the person’s IQ wasn’t so low as to indicate a distinctive handicap.

Ria777's avatar

that finding always seemed very obvious. in the art work in particular, I think a number of terrible artists have managed to do well for themselves on the strength of their personalities and networking.

persistence and perseverance counts for a lot as well.

ShauneP82's avatar

No. I know numerous people who can barely read and they make more money and are a bigger success than some of the geniuses I know.

Ria777's avatar

@ShauneP82, education does not equal intelligence. and, by definition, you probably know few, if any actual geniuses.

however, I do use literacy as a basic marker of intelligence because I assume that curiosity and smarts go together and you can satisfy your curiosity by learning to read.

ru2bz46's avatar

I have a high IQ, and I’ve been encouraged to apply for MENSA by a number of people. Would it be a boost to my ego to be accepted in? Yes, and no. I would appreciate the acknowledgement, but I already know I’m smart. I would also feel like an elitist, and I don’t do things for accolades. I would rather just use my intelligence to excel at writing computer code, figure out why a piece of equipment isn’t working, and appreciate subtle humor. I don’t really use it much for career advancement; I advance only when I want to stop what I’m doing and take on a new challenge.

I guess it doesn’t make me a better person, but by letting me understand thing easier, it helps me to enjoy my life more.

mattbrowne's avatar

@ru2bz46 – Our societies need people with intellect and people with high IQs. The future of any technological civilization depends on it. We also depend on people who know how to their hands and how to handle emotions. Every talent and skill is needed whatever it is. And every human being has talents. Some folks lock their potential away because they enter a vicious circle of frustration. But it can be rediscovered. I think some people in society are making a huge mistake focusing their admiration too much on all kinds of celebrities, while portraying smart people as elitist.

ru2bz46's avatar

@mattbrowne Agreed. However, for me, I don’t want people looking at me with a label like “MENSA Dude”, and thinking that I feel superior because I don’t. I know that I have other limitations like ADD, OCD and Tourette’s that keep me humble on my own. Others may look at MENSA Dude and laugh saying, “Yeah, but he can’t finish projects, and he counts everything, and he has those weird ticks. WTF?” At least as Dude-with-all-those-other-problems, I can take silent comfort in knowing that at least I’m smart. It’s only in an anonymous (for me, anyway) forum like this, or among close friends that I am comfortable enough to talk about it. Maybe I’m just selfish that way, but I don’t need MENSA.

VzzBzz's avatar

@mattbrowne: “Some folks lock their potential away because they enter a vicious circle of frustration. But it can be rediscovered.”
you’re going to make more than a few people teary with this and I’m glad

fireside's avatar

@mattbrowne & @VzzBzz“Some folks lock their potential away because they enter a vicious circle of frustration. But it can be rediscovered.”

I think this goes right back to that Emotional Intelligence and the ability to detach from the ego.
That’s all I had to add. Bee already called attention to the sentence, but I liked it too. Where’s my kleenex?

Darwin's avatar

I qualified for MENSA and so went to one meeting. It was my last also because, for one thing, I didn’t drink beer much in those days, but for another all that brain power was being wasted talking about their brain power.

It is actually much more interesting hanging out with folks who have no idea what their IQ is because they just want to talk about stuff that is interesting.

mattbrowne's avatar

@ru2bz46 – I think it’s very good that you don’t feel the need for Mensa. You might enjoy seeing it as a challenge, though. And if you qualify you can always decide to keep it to yourself and I’m talking about the close people around you in real life. Online it’s no problem when using nicknames. I never shared my IQ with anyone and I won’t in the future (not even online because I’m less anonymous). The only people who know are my parents who had me tested when I was a kid and kind of forgot about it.

For kids there’s always the issue of bullies. Kids can be very cruel. If you’re somehow different you’re becoming a target (this can also happen in online forums and then it doesn’t even matter how old people are). In my case when I was a kid, it might have also been related to my vocabulary. At home we had endless discussions about almost everything. Some meals went on for 2 hours, well, we were done eating, but just remained at the table. And I also read a lot of books. Strangely, some kids feel offended when confronted with a word they don’t know, or they don’t know what it means. Nice kids will ask “Huh? What’s this?” and are eager to learn.

Bullies will spot a great opportunity. “Elitist prick, your days are numbered.” Interestingly during the senior high school year some bullies enter a kind of metamorphosis and at the end of the process they shyly ask questions like “Hey, dude, can you explain this math problem to me? I really can’t afford to flunk the next test again.” New attitude, huh? And this is what truly matters for adults in the knowledge economy. So you’re fine @ru2bz64 with or without Mensa. Don’t let anyone get to you. Be yourself!

@VzzBzz and @fireside – Thanks for your comment!

ru2bz46's avatar

@mattbrowne Thanks. As a kid, I never really had a problem with bullies. Sure, I was in all the gifted programs, but on the playground, I treated them with the same respect and dignity with which I treated my smart friends, so they didn’t feel threatened. There was one bully that got to me, though. (I cannot remember what his problem was) One day, I reached out with an open-hand slap in front of all his friends. Never another problem.

I was never seen as a geek in high school because I was friends with jocks, nerds, and regular popular kids. I remember purposefully dressing how the nerds did not. I toned down my vocabulary so as to be better understood by my friends. I avoided saying much of what was on my mind because many times, nobody understood what I was talking about. When I did tell a story, I usually included more information than needed because there was often so much background information needed to provide context for my actual point. Of course, once I got to the point, it was usually forgotten, anyway.

Now, I have fewer problems being myself. In fact, I’ve been told that I’ve offended people in the workplace because they thought that I was somehow talking down to them, though I cannot imagine myself ever doing that. I was just being me and trying to help them. I never want to make anyone feel out of place with me.

Also, I get enough satisfaction from coming up with creative solutions that are recognized by my peers as being “genius”. If somebody recognizes my ability on their own, I’m fine with accepting credit/praise. However, to actively seek out a label (even known only to me and my closest) just seems so…elitist. Lucky for me, I’m awkward enough to maintain my cover.

At the same time, it seems like MENSA is just trying to capitalize on people feeling the need for that label. They accept the top 2% of IQ’s, which sounds faily exclusive, but it’s still one in fifty. It the US alone, that gives them a potential base of 6 million people. Maybe if they changed to the top .5%, I’d be more interested in the challenge. ;-)

Ria777's avatar

they have a more elite version of Mensa for the top .5% or something like that. I can’t remember the name of it and can’t feel bothered to look it up.

YARNLADY's avatar

@ru2bz46 Mensa is not a “they”. It is a social club that was organized by people who wanted to get together with other people they feel comfortable with. As many people here have stated, they do not feel comfortable with the people in their local group, so they have decided to paint the entire organization with a broad brush based on one poor experience.

In reality, Mensa is an organization run and operated entirely by volunteers who offer their homes for strangers to come in and get acquainted. If anyone has visited a Mensa meeting and come away with the idea that all Mensan’s talk about is their IQ, that is a shame. Mensa is nothing like that. If someone was really interested in being part of the club, they are always welcome to hold meeting for people they feel more comfortable with, rather then walk away from “them”.

Again, it’s not “them”, it’s a group of dedicated members who volunteer their time to be with other members. There are many people, like the ones who answered here, who go and say “Well, what are you going to do for me?”. When I joined, I went to my first meeting and said “Hi, folks. What can I do to help?” I have been a happy member for nearly 40 years and met two husbands in the club.

ru2bz46's avatar

@YARNLADY I meant no disrespect for the organization or its members at all. I belong to many organizations, and they all seem to have the same things in common, exactly as you describe about Mensa.

For me, it is only the label I would not be comfortable having or seeking. I’d probably enjoy the meetings, just as long as I wasn’t a member. I think I’d feel more comfortable as a member of Retards Anonymous or something; there just wouldn’t be the same stigma for me. It’s kind of hard to say that to a member and not feel like I’m giving an insult, but please understand I don’t think of Mensans in the same way that I would think of myself for becoming one. Yeah, I know that sounds pretty stupid.

YARNLADY's avatar

Mensa has several special interest groups, including a group that calls themselves Densa, because they don’t feel comfortable with the elitist attitude. There’s even a group for motorcycle riders, and for crafters like myself.

ru2bz46's avatar

@YARNLADY You’re kidding! I could do Densa. :-)

YARNLADY's avatar

What most people don’t know about Mensa could probably fill a book. Any member who wants to can start a special interest about almost anything. If a member want to start a group for people who don’t want to admit they are members, they could.There are 50,000 members, and a hundred or two special groups.

Darwin's avatar

There is only one small Mensa group here in my area. They weren’t willing to share much in the way of information about the organization as a whole, nor that it might even be possible to start a separate group. So I gave up at that point. They obviously weren’t good ambassadors for the organization.

Besides I found other people to talk to in the theater world and other groups in town.

YARNLADY's avatar

@Darwin All dues paying members receive the National Bulletin Magazine, the local group has nothing to do with that. All the national and international activities and many round table discussions are on the internet.

I’m not trying to talk anyone into joining, I’m just trying to correct the wanton misinformation that appears here.

Darwin's avatar

@YARNLADY – Back then the Internet wasn’t what it is today, and I decided not to pay dues to any organization that was represented by people like that. Life is too short. Being an official “Mensan” was not high on my list of priorities because I was already a member of a number of other groups, who were much more interesting.

mattbrowne's avatar

@ru2bz46 – Although we teach our kids to hand conflicts without resorting to violence, I totally agree with you that under special circumstances a open-hand slap in the face can be the best way to solve a problem. Well done!

mamabeverley's avatar

@Kraken I don’t know what they were thinking, I voted for the “other guy” twice! It is all rigged!

CMaz's avatar

Plenty of people with high IQ’s sitting in prison.

ratboy's avatar

The Flynn effect justifies teens in their belief that their parents are morons.

cinquestar's avatar

The varying IQ tests measure only one part of intelligence. It is a way that helps teachers understand a little more about you. Then, you can get placed in gifted programs to keep you from being bored in school.

Unfortunately, this test is only a piece of the pie. What about body intelligence or emotional intelligence as stated earlier. I am always impressed and amazed by people who can dance incredibly well. The amount of intelligence being utilized when copying a complex dance movement is incredible. However, in our society, this is not deemed important or worthy in the same way. (Except in the case of professional athletes, which is a very small percentage of people who are able to make a livable wage off of their gifts.)

What else? Emotional intelligence. I think people who have strength in this area have an amazing ability to move through the world reaping the benefits of rewarding relationships and friendships because they understand themselves and the prcess through which human beings process and store emotion. By experiencing this and having access to this intelligence, in my belief, actually allows you to make decisions that are creative and responsive to the present moment.

So, no. No, I don’t think IQ should matter one bit. It is a way of testing book-smarts that is not a complete picture into what creates a life of happiness. It has nothing to do with real world scenarios. I understand that at a certain IQ level, a person’s ability to function in our world is greatly impaired, but that has to do with the fact that we do value higher IQ individuals as a society. We are fascinated by it. And we favor it. There is privilege in having a high IQ.

Ria777's avatar

dancing well can help you find a mate, though. by “society” you mean the potential to earn wages.

book-smart people (this has to do with the EQ, too) have the potential to affect the course of millions of people in a way that, sorry, others less fortunate don’t get to do. it takes book smarts to make inventions which which affect history forever. it takes book smarts to come up with a philosophy which will down through the ages change millions of lives. like or not, novelists and social theorists get to speak for the masses, not the masses themselves. they’ll get at most, what, a thirty second soundbite on t.v.?

this has come about because the basic unit of social organization has gone from small groups to nation-states and multi-national corporations. from dozens of people to thousands and up to billions.

you could equally say that EQ confers priveliges (it does, obviously). you mean privelige (singular, not plural) meaning something you want to denigrate and distrust.

derekpaperscissors's avatar

Leaning towards yes. You’d have a hard time relating, getting and talking to each other if the gap is big. Your interests are more likely not to match. Of course, there are exceptions. One can be satisfied with “teaching” someone or “learning” from someone at different iq levels.

erniefernandez's avatar

Intelligence Quotient (IQ) is a sliding scale. Essentially, it’s a comparative measurement, since your IQ is based on the average age of everyone else that took your test.

So, if everyone in the world received an equal measure of performance-impairing brain damage, no one would have a lower or higher IQ.

Oh, of course, there’s also the issue of how the test is administered and social qualifiers. Certain ethnic groups don’t understand the language used or even the concept of a “test” (think indigenous tribal groups).

How do you fairly test and judge people who frankly don’t understand, or give a shit, about your test?

IQ is fine, but don’t take it as any more than it is, a series of actions you perform which are scored for a number, decided according to how (not how well) everyone else performed the same task. I know two people with “genius” IQs and they’re both emotionally unfulfilled and generally unhappy, and certainly do not have very cerebral jobs… which they hate.

P.S.: Most attempts to categorize human intelligence are clumsy and narrow in their scope. Gardener’s 7 Intelligences is exceptionally stupid. They’re fine for getting very general ball-parks but in the end, someone with a 100 IQ can and will accomplish much more than someone with a 140 IQ (again, IQ is not some inherent human trait, it’s a test score) if the 100 IQ individual has better skills, is better organized, better emotional maturity, and problem solving skills. 140 IQ is useless if all you’re good at is IQ tests! :)

ponderopus's avatar

An IQ measurement is “information”. If we agree that there ARE differences amongst “data,” “information,” and “knowledge”; and the relationships amongst them are that “data(s) are the building blocks of “information” when “data” combines with “context”, and that “information(s) are the building blocks of “knowledge” when “information” combines with “context” and these combinations our interpreted as meaningful relationships amongst information points, then a knowledge domain can be identified. So, an IQ matters, sure, but how much, to whom, how often, how much it brings success or failure to those with or without high IQ scores, can only be interpreted by the role it plays in a certain context. So, it depends. But if you don’t have a high one, I wouldn’t be too concerned about it.

YARNLADY's avatar

@erniefernandez Intelligence Quotient is not measured with a sliding scale – it is a Bell Curve

erniefernandez's avatar

@YARNLADY You’re right. I looked it up; apparently I’ve been using “sliding scale” incorrectly.

Everything I said still stands, though.

bumwithablackberry's avatar

IQ check hahaha

bumwithablackberry's avatar

Has anyone heard of EQ, I’ve heard that’s more important, has anyone mentioned that.

YARNLADY's avatar

@bumwithablackberry If you bothered to read the rest of the answers, you wouldn’t have to ask.

bumwithablackberry's avatar

Hence the “has anyone mentioned that”

YARNLADY's avatar

@bumwithablackberry and you aren’t reading the other quips because….?

bumwithablackberry's avatar

I like the sunken garden in SB, by the courthouse, good place to take pics, eat one of those pastrami’s you know the one’s, and take a nap, lovely place.

Darwin's avatar

Random. Really random.

Hobosnake's avatar

I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.
-Albert Einstein

Ria777's avatar

he said knowledge, not intelligence.

rwiedeman's avatar

Intelligence matters. I’m unconvinced IQ measures it effectively, though.

NewZen's avatar

You asked: Does IQ matter?

Perhaps Fluther is a little like I.Q. + E.Q. which makes it so lovely.

:-)

Barbs's avatar

I think we are all missing the point! The IQ test was invented by humans. We all have abilities. There is no formular for the human condition. We should find ways to achieve the greatest possesion of them all; happiness. Rather than segregate people because of there intelligence we should try and integrate people because of their abilities. You do not have to have a high IQ to have the ability to do something well. If you can fullfil your capacity then you can be happy.

Drgrafenbergmd's avatar

Until we can create a universal test that doesn’t vary based on one’s culture, IQ tests will remain a subjective thing and thus unreliable.

candide's avatar

no – imagination, vision, determination and compassion are more important

Ltryptophan's avatar

High IQ is like God giving you a trust fund. When the time comes you can use it wisely, or blow it in one night of drunken revelry!

GracieT's avatar

Having a high IQ can be both good and bad. I am a member of Mensa, but I have had a frontal lobe TBI. My therapist told me once that she didn’t
think that I would have recovered as much as I did
from a brain injury as severe
as mine was if my IQ wasn’t as
high as it is, but it has been a
disadvantage in the sense that
people think that I am “faking
it” involving my disability. I’m
on SSD, and I’ve been told
that I don’t deserve it, but I’m
not really able to hold a job. I
volunteer so I don’t commit
suicide by not having anything
to do or people to interact
with, and I’ve still had some
people tell me that I’m taking
advantage of the system.

GracieT's avatar

Also, my parents absolutely refused to let me find out mine- they said that if it was high, I’d get pompous and stop trying. They also felt that if it
was low I’d just give up and
stop trying. The only reason
I’m in Mensa is a test I took in
elementary school. I still do
not know the number, just
approximately, and that just
because of a test we all took in elementary school.

YARNLADY's avatar

@GracieT If you really want to, you can write to your school district and request a copy of your records, or simply write the Mensa admission office and ask them. Tell them your parents did not disclose the information and you want to find out. Be sure to include your membership number.

28lorelei's avatar

Does IQ even tell you what to know? It tells you how good you are at certain tests. How about if you’re really smart, but get nervous when taking tests? I don’t think it’s even that accurate.

Barbs20's avatar

I believe intellegence is too much of a general thing to be confined to one limited model.
There are so many things that make up intellegence in humans such as a creative imagination and the ability to use it. One person could be just as intellegent as another but just in a different area.

28lorelei's avatar

@Barbs20 that is SOOO true! It doesn’t test for stuff like athleticism or musical genius. Not to mention IQ tests don’t work for savants, who are extremely gifted in something and bad at everything else.

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