What do you think happens when you die?

It would be cool to come back as a ghost and scare the shit out of everyone. But I don’t really believe in that
I’ll just become fertilizer. Whoopee

I enter the same state I was in before I was conceived.

Nothing happens. My mind ceases to function. My body decomposes and I become star stuff.

I think I’ll be a much happier person when I die. I wouldn’t scare anyone, (well okay maybe a couple of people) but I’d be glad I won’t see them anymore.
I don’t even know if I have a soul, I can’t see it so it might not even be real.

I don’t know, but I do know that all of us will find out.

yeh…being a ghost would be kinda neat…..dont think so tho as ther’d be so many ghosts by now no one would ever get a decent nights sleep

i want to come as a ghost…that’d be awesome.

you cease to be. your body rots, and you turn into dirt. no afterlife.

I decompose and the world carries on without me. Of course the quality on Fluther all goes to hell.

@AstroChuck You jest, but it’s true. Fluther would never be the same.

@AstroChuck Fishin’ for lurve.

Oh, who am I kidding? I’ll can’t NOT give you lurve.

I wish I could quit you

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oh i didnt realise it had already been asked…how rude of me

http://www.gotquestions.mobi/life-after-death-mobi.html

don’t trust me study the Bible yourself.

I don’t know, let me find out… brb

You find yourself saying “Aaaahh! I see”, because you get a lot of answers.
At least I hope that that is what happens.

@seVen sorry, you’re not going to heaven.

What happens is you don’t live anymore .
What happens after : You get burned or get buried unless you get made into a mummified umbrella stand .

no thanks @seVen read it studied it…some good ideas and some fuckin stupid ones so i takes it with a pinch of salt a mile high

@sandystrachan rofl an umbrella stand?

Your conscience ceases to be and your body decomposes.

The End. :)

Then it’s zombie time!

I believe it’s kind of like dreaming but more peaceful.

@AstroChuck Thiller dance party!

I think the same thing will happen that occurred before I was born. Nonexistence.

@dynamicduo Wouldn’t that be pre-existence?

@lloydbird, I would strongly argue no. The modifiers “pre” and “post” tend to imply that there is someone else to observe the object/action. While this could be correct from your vantage point, it is impossible to observe from my own vantage point. From my vantage point, existence is a binary attribute, either I exist or I do not exist. There can be no pre-existing because I cannot monitor my own existence or lack thereof.

I don’t think there’s much evidence that anything will happen. We are our bodies. When our bodies die, we die.

Not if our brains are put into robot bodies. And we’d have the strength of four gorillas!

Here’s what happens after you die:

“You” fade away as the orderliness of your body fades away.

The great cosmic flow ebbs forward, almost exactly the same as it did when you were alive.

@Sampson oh.. I love thriller, especially the dance.

You also urinate and defecate yourself. I forgot that little tid-bit.

So much for dignity.

@dynamicduo But what about different ‘states’ of existence. Pre-, Actual (?) and Post-?
Perhaps in a cyclical formation.

There are only two states of existence. Existence, and non-existence. Which isn’t really saying much, as non-existence implies the image of something existing. You cannot, as an observer (much like @dynamicduo said), imagine something existing that could have existed if it did not. Imagination of something non-existent is just a toy of the mind.

The laws of physics dictate that energy cannot be created nor destroyed. We are all, as Carl Sagan said, star stuff. On a physical level, we have always existed. We always will exist, in one form or another.

On a psychological level (or even philosophical level), no. There is no evidence that our mind, memory and experience transcends neural inactivity. There is no such thing as a soul.

What the hell am I saying? I’ve been awake <24 hours, I need some sleep before I pa

Im going to drag my own coffin to hell.

this is all very depressing. I think there’s more to reality than just the physical, so I believe something happens, the soul continues to exist in some state.

@efritz Why do you believe that?

I’m hoping I will be going to Heaven. This is what I believe! I have to believe in this it just doesn’t make any sense to just stop existing to me.

@Sampson – simply because it makes sense to me. Maybe some lingering traces of Christianity from my childhood.

I’m so agnostic I don’t know why I don’t know :)

As my 12th grade econ teacher always said, “when you are dead, you are dead for a long time.” However, I don’t, and didn’t happen to agree with him.

If you are a Christian, the bible says to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. So that means when we die we leave the body. I believe the soul leaves the body. I believe the soul is eternal. Yes the body will rot.
But Christians also believe that when Jesus comes back, their bodies will be resurrected and changed. The dead in Christ are raised and caught up to meet Christ at his coming.
Until that point…it is hard to say where the souls reside. Only described as paradise, with the Lord. But they are waiting for Jesus return. And those souls who are not Christ’s will dwell in hell. An eternal existence of punishment instituted by God for those who choose not to acknowledge Him as the creator.

Now…go ahead…I am sure you all will hate this answer, so I am expecting plenty of replies about how stupid I am for believing this.
Cheers,

@watchman220 the “soul” means the person. when the soul dies, you die.

As the chemical reactions in my brain stop, my consciousness I think stops too.

Obviously no one here, has ever watched “Ghost Busters”

Well, I think a mortician comes to pick up your body, and they take it to the funeral home, pump weird chemicals in it, throw it in a box (after clothing it properly) and then bury it or burn it.

Unless you live in some other culture where death practices are different.

I have put it in my will that my body will be sent to the local taxidermist, I will be stuffed like a trophy buck, with my arms out to the side and another ‘member’ in an upright position so one can hang at least a hat or a couple of umbrellas on ‘it.’

The relatives that inherit my stuffed body will have the most unusual coat rack in the neighborhood. And just think, they can dress my body up for different holidays.

Now that’s my idea of an afterlife!

i’m hoping for 72 virgins. oh wait, not how you die….nevermind. ;)~

@ShanEnri When ”—heaven-” fills up do the bodies fall back to earth as zombies ?
We all know there is no heaven or hell , even religious people must see how this isn’t possible

God I hate it when I come to these kind of threads so late….

@Marina: How will we know we have found out?

@sandystrachan No of course not! Those are the folks waiting to get into hell!

My body will rot until there will be nothing remaining of me but other’s memories and the results of my successes and failures in life.

@ShanEnri Is there some kind of quality control going on up there that they are sending the bodies to “hell” doesn’t “god” know the bad from good just like santa clause?

I end being me

Die.

@sandystrachan no there is no quality count and you did ask about the zombies that fell out of heaven due to overcrowding. I merely stated the obvious, if heaven is full then they must be waiting to go to hell. Or perhaps they are in purgatory?! Of course God knows bad from good a hell of a lot better than Santa Claus! Quit being so close minded about everything, isn’t that the job of the christian anyway?!

No real details to share but either heaven or hell Christian style.

I believe that consciousness is an emergent phenomenon that arises out of organized matter—matter that has been organized by an unbroken continuum of evolution which predates what we commonly think of as “life.” Life is an emergent phenomenon that has its origins in the self-organizing properties of matter, which is itself governed by a deep mathematics based on the ratios of whole integers and expressible in infinite complexity (i.e, fractal geometry).

What we take to be our minds is not a purely individual phenomenon but collective one in which cultural patterns are encoded into populations of individual genomes, which are essentially biological computers that create a kind of simulacrum or holographic experience which defines the parameters of our reality. Our sense of individuality is an illusion on multiple levels. Language, for example, is a cultural artifact which evolves to support the evolution of the shared cultural metaorganism we call “mind.”

When we die, the computational machinery of our reality begins to break down and our consciousness begins to drift into neighboring quantum realities, until it reaches one in which there a kind of mathematical stability (e.g., an asymptote or equilibrium) where it remains until something disturbs it. Since cultural evolution is a moral enterprise, driven by choices based on emotional attachments and strivings, in death, these attachments exert a kind of “pull” or “drag” on where your consciousness drifts in the multiverse, determining whether you end up in a parallel universe similar to the one you just left, or spin wildly into some vastly different universe with a different set of cultural and moral problems.

Since the multiverse is infinite, and exists outside of time, “I” am also “you,” “he,” “she” and “it,” simultaneously occupying all possible points of view accessible to consciousness, each in its own timeline. When I die, I do not cease to exist, my existence continues on from another point of view (which is likely shaped by how I acted in my former incarnation). I should therefore strive to create the best possible world I can.

@MontyZuma Just out of curiousity, what do you mean by “parallel universe”?

From what I understand, you’re talking about historical immortality, “the memory living on, in others”, which I wholly agree with. You just lost me in the third paragraph.

@Grisaille I mean “parallel universe” as in the Quantum Many Worlds in

http://holtz.org/Library/Philosophy/Scientific%20American%20Parallel%20Universes%20-%20Tegmark%202003.htm

Most of what we take to be our minds lives on in others. Language, for example, is a kind of living organism—what they call a “metaorganism” in the new biology. Language is developed and supported by a population of individuals. Individuals may die but the language lives on in the mind of others. If we coin a word or an idea, those too live on, and they may shape our consciousness if we are born back into the same culture. If we don’t make a unique contribution, we still carry forward the existing structures and are shaped by them.

Our bodies are essentially biological computers that fix us in a quantum universe. I am speculating that when our bodies break down, there is a chance for our consciousness to become detached from our current universe and become re-established in a nearby parallel universe, which is largely determined by who we were and what we did.

@MontyZuma Bravo!
Your words are like music.
I salute you.

@lloydbird Thank you!

Crap, I didn’t even know you responded.

Your link is broken, but I can tell what you mean by reading your passage. Interesting take. I don’t know if I agree with it in its entirety, but it is quite thought provoking.

Cool stuff.

@Grisaille Sorry about the link. Try this

@MontyZuma Works great, thanks.

@ShanEnri Heaven is a myth and does not actually exist. You don’t have to beleive that you’ll stop existing though!

@MontyZuma I always though that I will always exist though I keep this thought secret and feel that it is naive due to rejection of it when I ocassionally express it to others. I initially anwsered this question stating that I think consciousness is destroyed at death due to my habit of alternating between these two thoughts

@doggywuv In the multiverse, where everything has already happened, you do exist for all time.

In the universe you inhabit, every action you take creates chains of cause and effect that ripple outward, for all eternity, changing everything. In Quantum Theory, this is called a wave front. Theoretically, if you were sufficiently aware, you could direct the whole universe like an orchestra, by choosing to do one thing rather than another, allowing effects to magnify through the butterfly effect.

Alas, we are limited to our singular points of view.

Or are we? In Quantum Theory, there is a phenomenon known as “superposition” where an electron can be in two places or two spin states or two universes at the same time. According to the Many Worlds view of Quantum Theory, the universe we live in is constantly branching into alternative parallel universes. However, every time we make a decision, the wave front we set in motion collapses all the other possible branching parallel universes, locking us into a specific reality with it’s specific moral trajectory.

In death, we lose the ability to decide; so whatever consciousness is sustained by this process very likely stops; at which point, consciousness may very well occupy multiple points of view in multiple universes because we create no wave fronts that interfere with quantum superposition. In one universe, I am me and you are you; in another, you are me and I am you; and in another universe, we are both someone else. If you think about it, it becomes pretty clear that we should treat one another much better than we do.

You look too young to recommend strong drugs like LSD or DMT, but I can recommend something that won’t make your mother furious: a real mind-blowing book, “In the Garden of Forking Paths” by Jorge Borges . The most celebrated story in that book, and my favorite, is the The Library of Babylon, which is now often called Borge’s Library and is a key metaphor in the new biology. What is most remarkable about Borges is that he wrote about all of this in the 1940s.

@MontyZuma I think I may try LSD or something similar but yes I’m too young to experiment with that :) Thanks, I will look into that book!

The only thing I KNOW for sure is that I am a physical being and all things physical expire. As far as what i THINK… I think that our psyche is connected to our physical and they both die at the same time. I can understand where the concept of reincarnation come from because my aunt died about a two and a half years ago and my cousin gave birth to a baby girl two years ago that is not only the physical image of her but in her mannerisms as well. We all say that it is my aunt reincarnated. Don’t know if it’s true but it could be.

I also undertand the concept of Heaven and Hell because a sad reality of life is that people get away with crimes more often then they are caught and if someone you love has been raped or murdered and that person was never punished or found innocent of that crime then the only thing that would keep you from blowing that person’s head off is believing in hell. You also want to belive that a small child who dies of cancer or someone that dedicated their lives to the have nots will be rewarded. I Don’t know and I don’t think about it. The only way to know what happenes when you die is to die and right now I am trying to make the most of beling alive.

Really die or when fluther closes?