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Computers are 'Manifest Magic' don't you think?

Asked by lloydbird (8740points) August 16th, 2009

How can I be doing this? How can it be reaching you?
How far a divide is there between those (so called) “Stone Age” axes, and what is happening right here, right now?
Our ability to ‘take things for granted’ is probably one of our greatest strengths. Or one of our greatest weaknesses, if we don’t realise sufficiently just how beneficial it can be to us.
Perhaps you don’t yet see this. Well why not pick up a rock and try to tell me about it?
If you accept any of the above, and you are expertly ‘computer savey’ then what does that make you?

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marinelife's avatar

I don’t accept the premise again.

If you ask me, computers are poorly constructed adding machines.

I don’t see their interfaces as at all efficient or user-oriented.

I certainly don’t accept the premise of coders as high priests.

Forgot the stone part, What do you want to know? Whether the rock is metamorphic, sedimentary or igneous? If it has a crystalline structure? Is it common or rare? Not sure what your point is about the rock.

nebule's avatar

I agree…It’s fucking magic!

martijn86's avatar

ye humanity has gone nuts by now.. really. just like all the super smart people the issues are starting to show, predicting some meltdown later on and we will all be back to sticks and stones! Yay!

ragingloli's avatar

granted, a laptop would have gotten you straight to the stake in the middle ages. by their definition, it is magic and wizardry

PerryDolia's avatar

I think it is astounding.

The first real breakthrough was the transistor, in 1947, which allowed for the miniaturization of the components. Plus they used tiny amounts of electricity to do their job when compared with the previous electron tubes.

Now we have the personal computer. Here is some astounding stuff: it runs on a frequency of 3 billion cycles per second, the CPU chip has over 250 million transistors that are about 13 millionths of an in wide. Mix that with a little code and you have a data analytical tool like none other.

Now we have the net, inter-connectivity and Google. I can ask it anything and find a reliable answer faster than I could look it up in the phone book or Encyclopedia. Fluther is another pleasant part of the connecting.

So, magic? No.
Wowie Zowie Astoundingly Sweet, Oh, yes.

lloydbird's avatar

@PerryDolia What if you were to take the definition of ‘Magic’ to be, (as some do) – The art of causing change to occur, according to ‘will’.
Is magic, no?

cwilbur's avatar

I don’t think it’s magic, because I understand the principles that underlie it all.

If you want to engage in magical thinking, be my guest.

PerryDolia's avatar

@lloydbird
Sure. If that’s your definition of magic.

I guess I was thinking of magic more like when something happens and it seems impossible and you don’t know how it was done.

Since I understand computers from the tiniest parts, through the microcode, to the software and up through the network, I know how it is done, so it is not magic to me.

I think “Wowie Zowie Astoudingly Sweet” is a pretty high rating. :^)

quasi's avatar

electricity was originally considered supernatural/magical/spiritual

i like to think it still is

marinelife's avatar

@quasi One can make a better case for electricity, which we still don’t fully understand.

quasi's avatar

@Marina can or can’t?

marinelife's avatar

@quasi Can. Since electricity is still not fully understood in the 21st century that, in my mind, more closely resembles magic. Of course, I don’t really consider electricity magic either.

ragingloli's avatar

@Marina
actually we understand electricity much better than gravity. so gravity should be much more considered magic.

quasi's avatar

@Marina my bad. yes, i agree.

although, i think its fun to believe in magic

marinelife's avatar

@ragingloli You may feel free to propose that. The discussion in question was between which is more magical computers or electricity.

nebule's avatar

I think it’s all magical :-) gravity, water, electricity, computers, speech…everything the whole shebang!

FireMadeFlesh's avatar

It once was, although I knew there was a mechanistic explanation, but now I understand the basics of computer engineering I regard it as brilliant but entirely non-magical.

lloydbird's avatar

@lynneblundell Ditto.
To that list, I would also add fire. Apparently, there isn’t a scientist that can tell us what exactly it is!

To the best of my knowledge….

nebule's avatar

oooh…spoooky! didn’t know that! :-)

pizzaman's avatar

I like computers and love going on them. They are so cool.

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