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(NSFW) Do vegans swallow?

Asked by sliceswiththings (11651 points ) January 2nd, 2010

Some friends and I were discussing this. It’s an animal product, so technically if one was strict he/she would not. Hmm…

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SkipperStyle's avatar

By that logic, you couldn’t french kiss, as bodily fluids with bacteria are getting exchanged. So yes, they do, or they are overthinking their life choice.

AstroChuck's avatar

or bite their nails.

mrentropy's avatar

I can honestly say that if I had a vegan girlfriend and she offered to swallow, I would not feel exploited at all.

In fact, if someone would give me a grant I’d be more than happy to do the research on this.

syz's avatar

I hardly think anyone performs that act as a method of nutritional support.

eponymoushipster's avatar

that’s why mine is fruit flavored. sneak attack!

mrentropy's avatar

@syz It is a source of protein.

syz's avatar

@mrentropy An entirely rude and personal question is immediately brought to mind by your comment….

DominicX's avatar

In that case, it would be more OCD to think you couldn’t swallow it because you’re a vegan. The point is that you don’t want animals killed or held in captivity and used for food. Swallowing someone’s semen doesn’t involve killing animals or keeping them in captivity (hopefully), so I don’t see a problem there.

ETpro's avatar

@mrentropy Ha! Excellent answer. Thanks or the laughs.

Ivan's avatar

@DominicX lol @ hopefully

mrentropy's avatar

@syz Well… Don’t keep it to yourself…
@ETpro Thank you. Please see the question about all answers on Fluther having to be serious :D

syz's avatar

@mrentropy Oh, something along the lines of “How many, emmm, deposits would it take to get the minimum daily recommended amount of protein?”

ETpro's avatar

@mrentropy I was thinking more about watching how long this one survives. :-)

mrentropy's avatar

@syz That would make for a good Fluther question!

@ETpro This could go on for days.

sliceswiththings's avatar

@DominicX Vegans don’t just protest the killing of animals. It’s really for not wanting to involve animals in their diets at all, which is why they don’t eat eggs or honey.

jonsblond's avatar

I think the gag reflex would come into play before any personal beliefs.

ETpro's avatar

@jonsblond Gag me with the spewn?

jonsblond's avatar

@ETpro Cum again?

Grisaille's avatar

you guys have taken this out of hand

Pcrecords's avatar

Wow! Anyone who’d even question anyone willing to swallow.

The question should be should a vegan allow anyone to swallow their ejaculate?

ETpro's avatar

@jonsblond I know that was pretty deep!

ratboy's avatar

I’ll bite!

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

Well I don’t know – I don’t think vegans think swallowing takes advantage of the human animal since it’s (hopefully) consensual and as you see (from the above) sorely needed by some. oh and sorry for a serious answer.

ETpro's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir Probably right. So would cheese from a consensually milked cow be OK on a vegan diet?

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@ETpro there is no way to know if the cow consents to being milked.

sliceswiththings's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir Thank you for a serious answer, I appreciate it.
@Simone_De_Beauvoir and @ETpro Cows need to be milked or they get very uncomfortable. I’ve seen undermilked cows with rashes on their udders because they are not milked frequently enough. I can see people protesting mistreated factory cows with metal milking devices, but I’m sure all cows consent to a kind farmer milking them.

eponymoushipster's avatar

there’s no way of knowing that the cow didn’t want to be milked, either.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@sliceswiththings Do you know what cows used to do before a human was there to milk them? or was there milk production different before they were domesticated?
@eponymoushipster that is true but it still doesn’t negate my point – if we don’t know either way, then I’d rather keep my human arrogant self out of cow’s affairs.

eponymoushipster's avatar

a cow would kill you and everyone you love, given the chance.

eponymoushipster's avatar

preemptive strike. plus, they’re delicious.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@eponymoushipster yeah, clearly that’s why we eat meat – pre emptive strikes. lol

avvooooooo's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir Before there were people to milk them, they had their babies with them to eat. If their babies died, they either found an orphaned baby if they could or… probably had major issues. At least until they dried up. But cows, if not milked, have major issues. It hurts to be full and not milked. Sure, the farmers could avoid them by not getting them knocked up and producing milk, but once they are without their babies at hand, they’re far happier being milked than not.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@avvooooooo oh, I see. thank you.

avvooooooo's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir No problem. :) Ever tried to not breastfeed? I haven’t had the opportunity, but I’ve heard its quite painful to be full up and have nothing relieving the pressure until it dries up. Same for cows.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@avvooooooo yes I have tried. it hurts. but not for a while.

laureth's avatar

Cows, like dogs and woolly sheep, are a product of domestication. That is to say, they didn’t exist in their present form in the wild. People took their ancestors in and selectively bred them for traits they wanted – such as sheep that make a lot of wool, and cows that make a lot of milk.

As such, it’s kind of useless to ask what these animals did in the wild before they were domesticated. They’re a human creation. And since we did this to them – created cows who have to be milked, and sheep that need to be shorn, or else things go poorly for them – it is pretty much our responsibility to take care of them. Like I said above – we “broke” it (created them to have different needs from their wild ancestors), we “bought” it (responsibility).

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