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josie's avatar

When the guy leaves the girl, it can only be because he is a jerk. When the girl leaves the guy, it can only be because he is a jerk. What is that all about?

Asked by josie (30934points) February 2nd, 2010

In most social circles, this statement is generally regarded as more valid than the converse. Is there a double standard?

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Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

I don’t belong to normal social circles and I find the statement to be false. Each break-up is different, you judge it on a case by case basis, regardless of gender. Oh, and the statement is false in all social circles, but you get where I’m going with this.

erichw1504's avatar

That guys are jerks?

ucme's avatar

Not always when a girl jerks you off is it pleasant.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

I really resent this statement,as I have left a guy because I am a jerk!LOL!

MrItty's avatar

Uhm. I think you need to find some new social circles, @josie. Can’t say I’ve ever encountered that particular double standard.

Supacase's avatar

That is usually from the girl and her friends’ point of view. The guy version is she was crazy or too high maintenance.

Both generalizations are wrong and tend to become used less and less as you get older.

CMaz's avatar

Honestly, who gives a crap. It is over!

If I am the jerk… I am hip with that. You know why???

Because it is over! :-)

stranger_in_a_strange_land's avatar

Because ladies are always right, Haven’t you figured that out yet?~

CMaz's avatar

Yes and that too. :-)

josie's avatar

@ChazMaz I always figured it had something to do with the justice of the oppressor vs the oppressed. But the good news is, it IS over!

life_after_2012's avatar

Ive never heard anbody say that, but as long as im happy i geuss ill just be a jerk.

Likeradar's avatar

Where are these lame social circles and how come I haven’t seen one since I was about 14?

Pandora's avatar

I think it may have to do with the fact that woman are usually willing to try to talk things out and work on the relationship (I’m not saying all women) where as guy (again not all guys) feel things will work themselves out if they say less because they don’t want things to blow up into an arguement or feel the relationship is just fine the way it is from their point of view. So in the relationship he may be seen as passive aggressive and therefore seen as a jerk.
But for the most part I agree with Supacase. I’ve seen guys tell their buddies and their buddies say its about time. She was such a b__th. For the most part your buddies will try to support you unless they liked your partner better than they liked you. Or unless they know you are douche and can’t bring themselves to lie to you.

borderline_blonde's avatar

I don’t think this is always the case… I think it depends on which party’s social circle you’re currently talking to. I broke up with my ex a few weeks ago… his friends think I’m a jerk. My friends think he’s a jerk. I think we’re both jerks. It just depends on who you ask.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@borderline_blonde “I think we’re both jerks” LOL, i love that and often so true

elizabethmae's avatar

This is a stupid idea. I’ve never felt this way.

Dr_C's avatar

I remember hearing about this kind of thing… in 7th grade.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@Dr_C yes like ‘all guys are poopie heads! bahhhh’

Dr_C's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir you take that back cootie breath!~

Likeradar's avatar

Dr_C I know you are, but what am I?

Dr_C's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir & @Likeradar that’s it. I’m telling teacher!

Likeradar's avatar

@Dr_C you started it.

galileogirl's avatar

check out @josie ‘s question history maybe he knows what he’s talking about when it comes to jerkhood!

odali's avatar

Who knows. I hate this stereotype too. I know I was really good to my ex girlfriend. Really patient, understanding of a lot of stuff that happened, helped her through a lot of crap, rarely (only on two occasions, literally) got mad at her, both times for her being dishonest, going back on her word, and hurting people, including her family, herself, and me, i said something stupid, which, right after it came out of my mouth i was like, shit.. im sorry, i didnt mean to say it that way, I was just frustrated and angry, and calm down directly after realizing my error in speech.. I also know right now, she’s probably sleeping with another guy, and I’ve tried to sleep with 3 girls in the past week (they all came on to me, VERY strongly, one minute we’re talking the next their tongue is down my throat, knowing im single now), and I get to the point where im just about to, completely naked, they want it, everything, and when it comes down to it, I just cant do it, because I love her too much, even though we’re not really together because we’re going through a shitty time right now.

So, honestly, I know I’m not the jerk. I know the way she’ll paint me to her friends and the way her friends will paint it for her, because her friends were jealous of our relationship, and felt as though they were losing control over her (don’t get me started on these two friends..).. to which i did absolutely nothing wrong to – but hated me anyway because i treated her well and she wanted to be around me, so she had less time for them, and similar things.

I could keep going, but I think you get the point..

Factotum's avatar

Most people I know are equal-opportunity jerk finders but I would like to mention that women usually aren’t ‘jerks’ per se. I mean, yeah, they can be but usually other words are used to denote said jerkhood.

Historically women have been given more comfort for being dumped as marriage was all but necessary for survival – and certainly necessary for status.

Also, women are often considered to be more vulnerable, etc. to the point that some of it is ingrained in how we are conditioned to treat them.

And finally, guys have long been conditioned to Not Talk About Painful Things which means that when they do they’re not very good at it.

wundayatta's avatar

We call this the jerk-jerk thing. Bear with me now. This gets complicated.

The guy is a jerk in both cases when the case is being prosecuted by a female attorney. If it’s a male attorney, the case gets dismissed, except if the woman is pretty hot.

The girl cannot be a jerk, but she can be a jerkess. Should she blow the goy off, she is a jap jerkess. In case she doesn’t blow, or put out for that matter, she is jerkless.

Things are reversed when we are talking about gay couples. You can figure that one out yourselves.

To jerk, or not to jerk?

Well. Don’t just stand there. DO SOMETHING!!!!!!

Um. Sorry Gail. Didn’t mean to be a jerk by shouting. Well. Maybe I did. What do you think of that chicken? (jerk chicken—get it, get it?)

Steve_A's avatar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv9VKKXwVxU

It’s just easier to say your a jerk.

Silhouette's avatar

Leaving the toilet seat up. Seriously, only a man hater would see things that way, most women can admit it’s sometimes their fault.

lonelydragon's avatar

When a person experiences a break up, he/she must create a narrative to tell their friends when they ask about the break up, and in these narratives, the teller invariably presents him/herself in a positive light. And, IME, men are just as quick to derogate their partners as women are. If you don’t believe me, listen to the popular music station, where you’ll here such lines as “That bitch is leaving me” (from “No Surprise” by Theory of a Dead Man).

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

Fact from Fiction, truth from diction. I find both to be true and false depending on the relationship. But I don’t see them as the ONLY two truths. A girl may leave a guy because she is a fool who don’t know what she has. He may leave her because she was a cheating skank b**** or something. But it is never always the guy’s fault.

DrMC's avatar

When a marriage ends, both have failed their oaths. Fingers can be pointed, but the group died. It’s almost always complex with both parties contributing to the demise.

If you hang out around man bashers, you’ll hear the stereotype of blaming it on the guy. If you are a jerk, then that’s another instance where you may hear such.

Life is a series of attempted failures and new opportunities. Look forward.

As the chinese proverb goes – a good horse grazes forward, (and never backwards over it’s poop)

mattbrowne's avatar

Female jerks are depicted by different swear words.

ucme's avatar

@mattbrowne Sarah & Palin?

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@DrMC That is a great proverb I will have to add to my intel bank, thanks for that one. :-)

DrMC's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central I tried to find the quote from google, couldn’t. My wife is Chinese, I’m brimming over with such proverbs. The Chinese have a phrase or proverb for just about any sort of wisdom.

I don’t know if that’s why they allegedly have less mental illness.

mattbrowne's avatar

@ucme – I was thinking bimbo or something along those lines. Not sure whether it really corresponds to jerk semantically. But there might be some overlap.

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