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Liberal media bias?

Asked by ljs22 (1013points) | asked June 22nd, 2008 | 18 responses | “Great Question” (0points) | Flag as…

My mother is convinced there is a liberal media bias. In trying to argue with her, I realized I don’t know as much about it as I could in order to form a coherent position. Perhaps this one of those intractable opinions that cannot be disproved. IS there a liberal media bias? Help me please.

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reed's avatar

This is a subject that has been studied quite a bit and depending on the bias of the particular researching organization, different conclusions have been reached. One data point that is not disputed much is that the overwhelming majority of so-called professional journalists are registered Democrats. Bias is actually blatantly used as a differentiator amongst the cable news organizations. On the left, you have CNN, chidingly called the Clinton News Network, well, before they turned against the Clintons and became Obama fans. They have commentators like Jack Cafferty who hardly hides his bias and many of the old Clinton cronies are trotted out with regularity. On the right you have Fox, which has a decidedly right wing point of view. Then you have MSNBC which attempts to play it both ways but many lefties watch it to drink in Keith Olbermann’s leftist spew fest. But they also had the recently departed Tim Russert, who was actually a real old school journalist that rarely tipped his hand as to his politics, he will be sorely missed.

So it really depends on what particular media outlet you look at. I think as a general notion, it could be convincingly argued that there is a subtle liberal leaning.

Upward's avatar

If your in the Bible Belt, then yes I would say there is.
If your on the East or West Coast not so much.

buster's avatar

Rush Limbaugh is so full of liberal bias it makes me sick.

Spargett's avatar

There always will be in her mind.

You can’t logically talk someone out of something they illogically talked themselves into.

chris6137's avatar

The media is biased to what will help their owner’s… The corporations. I believe MSM will push whichever agenda will help big business, which I believe is both sides. The two party system is so corrupt, it doesn’t matter which side you talk about, they are all out for big business. You got the military industrial complex on the right and the medical industrial complex on the left. Either way, big business wins and the media will get their advertising money.

I suggest watching The Revolution will not be Televised or Network. Both movies show the extreme bias and censorship of all corporate media. I always ask people why they get their news from corporations. After all, what does the average person have in common with Billionaires? Why would a rich person give info to the average person that would hurt their business?

Harp's avatar

First, in the interest of disclosure, I would unhesitatingly call myself a liberal. The news media doesn’t sound especially liberal to my left-leaning ears, but then it wouldn’t, would it? I would like as much as anyone else to believe that the media are just passing along the unfiltered facts, and that those just naturally tend to support my worldview rather nicely.

Nevertheless, the closest thing I’ve been able to find to a scientific study of media bias, conducted by Tim Groseclose of UCLA and Jeffrey Milyo of the University of Missouri in 2004, does find that most major news outlets rely more heavily on the input of liberal thinktanks and policy groups than conservative ones. They compare the frequency of these citations to how often these same groups are cited by Democratic and Republican congressional speakers. Here is the study, if you care to read it.

The study does not find widespread evidence of ficticious reporting, but rather a biased selectivity in sources. The study was based strictly on news reporting, and not editorial content.

So that’s not the result I woud have liked to see, but if I’m interested in the unvarnished truth, then it would be disingenuous of me not to accept it.

Harp's avatar

On the other hand, a report by the University of Maryland’s Program on International Policy Attitudes noted that those who watch Fox News were more likely to hold incorrect views about the Iraq war. Just sayin’

Marina's avatar

Of the two positions, I would say that I lean toward the liberal.

I wish that reed had disclosed his personal leanings although it is not that hard to guess with references like “Jack Cafferty who hardly hides his bias” and “Olbermann’s leftist spew fest” while he leaves out those fine right-wing spewers Hannity & Colmes and the egregious Bill O’Reilly.

Most of the time I am faulting the media for their poor coverage or lack of coverage of significant issues. Yet the folks on the right are faulting them as well. Chances are that means they are walking the fine line of not pleasing anyone.

AstroChuck's avatar

CNN is liberal? Give me a break. Wolf Blitzer? CNN runs headline news, too. Ever heard of Glen Beck and Nancy Grace? Furthermore, calling it the Clinton News Network simply says it’s a moderate news channel at best. Clinton was hardly a liberal. I kind of think of Bill Clinton as the last good rebublican president we had.

reed's avatar

@Marina – I’ve happily disclosed my personal leanings in other posts, I’m a centrist. As such I basically have contempt for what passes as news from most media sources. If you would have read a bit more carefully, you might have picked up my bias via my comment about Tim Russert. I honestly can’t point to any news source that is totally bias free, that’s why I read and watch from sources on both the left and the right the sort out the crap. But you have a fair point, I should have certified my centrism by showing my fair and balanced side (pun intended) and pointing out Fox’s spew fest as well. But you should have left Colmes out, he’s their token luke warm liberal.

@AstroChuck – Blitzer is reasonably balanced, but it does seem CNN Headline News is their lame attempt via Beck and Grace to to balance their left leanings. Personally I can’t watch either those two without gagging, the sound of Nancy Grace’s whining is like nails on a chalkboard to me. As for Clinton being a liberal, well as compared to Obama, no, perhaps not. But Clinton wasn’t a Republican by a long shot. He, like his wife, are pure political animals who would adopt most any ideology that would either get them elected or keep them in office.

allengreen's avatar

The ownership of media has consolidated to a point where 5 companies own all major news outlets nationally. The parent companies of each network and cable networks are virtually all owned or their supsidaries are owned by defense contractors like GE.
I find the concept of a “Liberal Media” difficult to swallow since each corporate entity benifits directly frow war related activites.
For example: in the run up to the Iraq war, if the media was liberal, why was the Bush Plan not held to a higher level of scrutany? Does the “Liberal Media” obsess about Cindy McCain stealing perscription meds. from the Church School nurses station? Do they talk about John McCain’s 1st wife, who was physically damaged while John was in Nam, and John cheated on her with Cindy before divorcing? Do we hear about the Keating 5 every day? OR do we hear about Rev. Wright, Michelle Obama being elite…..ba ba ba….now you tell me—do we have a “liberal media”? If we do I wish they would do their jobs and get off their asses.
kabish?

AstroChuck's avatar

Clinton’s big rise was due to him bringing the party to the center. Obama is a liberal? Please! True, he is more to the left of Bill, but hardly liberal. I laugh everytime Fox News claims Obama is the most liberal in the senate. Kerry is more liberal but also not the most. Of course in 2004 he was “the most liberal” person in congress. The right has far more control of mainstream media, as only a handful of corporations own it. The “left wing media” bullshit is spewed out by the same propogansists who want you to believe global warming is bullshit.

ljs22's avatar

Yeah, said mother doesn’t believe in global warming either. It’s a wonder I still visit home once per month. sigh

nocountry2's avatar

What are some of her arguments? It could also be noted that people tend to find evidence for what they are looking for…

ljs22's avatar

Well, basically she believes that scientists are divided on global warming but the ones that find evidence to the contrary are not published/focused on by our liberal media.

charybdys's avatar

I think the corporate-owned media is corporate-biased, obviously. And has mostly failed, they seem to completely just swallow bullshit and never challenge “truthiness”. NPR seems pretty decent. BBC is also not terrible. But it looks like conservative or liberal bias when their owners need to skew opinion on stuff.

As for global warming, sure there are debates, but its not media coverage that is a problem. Science publishing, when fairly done, is peer-reviewed. So when a study has merit, it can get published even when it disagrees with everyone. There are many terrible studies done, in global warming, medicine and drugs, and just about anything that has relevance. And they are done maliciously to try to obscure inconvenient truths. Think tobacco and cigarette studies in the past. Another point is funding. When a oil-company sponsored study is done about global warming, you need really look closely, cause lying or bias are not so difficult to achieve.

Regarding global warming, I’ll take Pascal’s wager.

Jiminez's avatar

“Reality has a well-known liberal bias.” – Stephen Colbert

Crusader's avatar

Liberal have a well-known Reality bias- Anonymous

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