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Imadethisupwithnoforethought's avatar

For the GLBT Community: Do you mind straight people in a homosexual bar?

Asked by Imadethisupwithnoforethought (14682points) July 12th, 2011

I have relatives who are gay, and when we go out I usually am deferential to them and go to a gay bar.

I think I am being accommodating in letting them chose the venue.

Does it piss you off when straight people violate a gay bar?

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Jude's avatar

Nope. As long as a guy doesn’t come up to my partner and I and ask to be apart of a sandwich.

This happened two weeks ago.

ANef_is_Enuf's avatar

As long as you can handle it gracefully if someone tries to flirt with you.
I actually had a woman once tell me that she was straight, and that she’d rather stick her head in an oven than have a drink with me.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

Curious phrase, violate, if that was used in conjunction with ”Would you want gay violating your health club?” I am sure the gay, GLTB community would surely dig that. I would not go anywhere, even with friends who were gay, to anyplace that thought I was violating as in making it less than, or polluting it. If they fetl they want to come slumming to any straight place was at, they would still get my respect; no need for two people to be in the gutter.

Aethelflaed's avatar

Not even a little bit, so long as you are ok with getting hit on by the same sex, aren’t trying to score a threesome, and aren’t a straight guy hitting on women who are probably trying to get away from being hit on by guys. I do mind, however, when there are only gay men bars, and no lesbian or gay people bars.

Imadethisupwithnoforethought's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central I actually am concerned along the lines you are describing. I am aware that gays deal with a lot of shit straight people do not have to deal with, having wonderful people in my family who happen to be gay, who have had to overcome crap.

I am sincerely concerned that gay bars are the one place that they can be comfortable, and want input on how not to screw that up.

Coloma's avatar

I am straight, so what?

Isn’t it time to stop separating everyone, you know there is NO separation, cosmically speaking. The issue isn’t gay vs. straight sharing the same space, the issue is the universal issue of fucked up people playing their fucked up games wherever they go.

Judge the deeds not the crowd.

Hawaii_Jake's avatar

It doesn’t bother me in the least, but you shouldn’t take offense, as @ANef_is_Enuf mentioned, if someone tries to pick you up.

I was in a small gay bar one night when an older straight couple came in. They enjoyed themselves and participated in the conversations going on around the bar, but when they left, the man mentioned that he wondered where all the women were. After they exited, we all burst into laughter.

Lightlyseared's avatar

@ANef_is_Enuf I’d much rather have a drink with you than stick my head in the oven.

ANef_is_Enuf's avatar

@Lightlyseared aww, you’re sweet.

OpryLeigh's avatar

Doesn’t bother me.

syz's avatar

No, of course not.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@Imadethisupwithnoforethought I am sincerely concerned that gay bars are the one place that they can be comfortable, and want input on how not to screw that up. First off you can’t unilaterally believe any straight person that walks into the place will somehow pollute it. You would not want to be told just off the fact you are gay that you would make a lousy parent because you would not be putting forth traditional family values? I am sure you wouldn’t, especially by people who never spoke word one to you. A bar by nature is a public place. If they wanted to assure there would be only gay people there they should have a private club, then they can screen out those who don’t fit in, just like many straight people have done for years. Take a page out of the playbook of the people you want to distance yourself.

Imadethisupwithnoforethought's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central I have lost the intent of what you want to get across.

I want to understand the etiquette of bars that gay people want to go to socialize, so as to be respectful. The helpful feedback so far I have received has told me to prepare to be hit on and to be respectful when not interested.

Are you indicating that I should not be curious as to etiquette of places I am visiting? That it is egocentric to think my behavior may diminish other people having a good time, or something else?

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@Imadethisupwithnoforethought Are you indicating that I should not be curious as to etiquette of places I am visiting? That it is egocentric to think my behavior may diminish other people having a good time, or something else? I guess we are not on the same page. I was above all referring to the curious phrase of violate, to me that conjures of thoughts that one is somehow making something less, or breaking a rule, etc. If you acted in a Boorish fashion, or I for that matter, it would not matter if it were a gay bar, museum, or a commute train, it would cause someone to no be happy. I am saying to first not think that straight people in a gay bar, even if alone, is going to violate or pollute the place. No matter what the bar, straight or gay if one act respectful to the person next to them everyone should be able to have a good time. If one group or the other wanted to exclusively be with their group and not around the other they can have a private club then they can screen who is the privilege of their company.

Imadethisupwithnoforethought's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central Okay. That is exactly why I wanted to ask the question.

I literally wanted to get a sense from the GLBT community on Fluther whether they have an expectation that a primarily gay club is exclusive. If they want to go to a bar that has a lot of straight and gay people, I assume they go to the local chain restaurant.

Again, in my head, I figure gay people have a lot of crap to put up with. If they replied en mass to my question saying we go to gay bars to relax without having to pretend to be straight, I would say good to know, I will not go. To go knowing that, in my opinion, would be an imposition, a violation of sorts.

As most of them say they could care less, I feel a little better that I am not stepping on toes.

Of course, they could go to a private club, as you suggest. And it is a free country, and I can go where I am not wanted if I elect too.

Berserker's avatar

I’m bi, but nah, I don’t give a fuck who goes in what kinda bar lol.

Imadethisupwithnoforethought's avatar

@Symbeline I’m a zombie tho, I should have said.

Berserker's avatar

Not much different than a Goth bar. :D S’all good, yo.

SecondHandStoke's avatar

They won’t if they are truly for sexual orientation equality.

@Imadethisupwithnoforethought

“Violate”? Just WTF?

Imadethisupwithnoforethought's avatar

@SecondHandStoke Are all gay people for sexual orientation equality? Is that a thing? Or do many people who want to be privately gay want to be privately gay and get weirded out when a straight person shows up to a place they expect to be exclusively gay?

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