Does dealing with being “natural” makes a hypocrite of you?

Good question. I’ve always considered myself a natural girl. I don’t color my hair, do my nails, wear makeup or any of that stuff. I do like to shave though. (I forgot to consider the underarm and leg hair when considering myself a natural gal. I hate the bush too. I’m such a hypocrite.)

@jonsblond I hate the bush too. I’m such a hypocrite. Psst….we all are by default, some just has the bar set higher and other lower but we all set the bar, hypocrite right with you. :-P

Since I wear clothes, does that make me a hypocrite?

When I met my wife – and for around the first 3 or 4 years we were together – did not shave her arms or legs. She was just as hot. Years later, when she started shaving for a job, it seemed odd to me. I am obviously used to it now.

By de fault everyone is a de facto “natural” hypocrite, is not a true statement. Some people don’t express their preferences as “natural”; they may prefer women with a lot of make up , or with implants, or with shaved areas. Those people are not being hypocritical.

I don’t walk around saying I prefer “natural” women, but I do hold my own thoughts on make up, etc.

BTW, when I was in college, we called women that didn’t shave “organic”.

@zenvelo – We called ‘em the crunchy granolas.

Dude, if you look like you could be in Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros, then you need to back up, fella, (except that one guy in the back who looks like Ryan Gosling). They’re a great band and all, but I like men who are a bit more groomed than those guys. Wash and comb your hair, for a start. Thanks.

@Hypocrisy_Central Are you circumcised? I like my men with natural penises.

Thing is a lot of women can really pull it off NOT being natural. Maybe you are talking about those who had no clue they look terribly out of fashion, even weird that they turn off more men than they should not have. But this is true as well with natural women.

I’ve met “unnatural” women who had breast augmentation and combined with great personalities, it actually makes them sexier. I could deal with all unnaturalness out there as long as it is done in good taste. I don’t think it equates to bad taste automatically.

I don’t know many women who never, ever wear makeup, color or style their hair, and never wear fragrance or bras or high heels. I don’t consider any of these things unnatural.

Everyone has their own preferences. I suspect, however, that preferences for women to be as hairless as a naked mole rat or a 6-year-old are a result of culture. We evolved to love and lust after the sexually-mature female body.

When I say I’m “natural,” I’m referencing my extremely coily hair and the fact that I try to stay away from unnecessary chemicals as much as possible when it comes to food, hygiene, etc. I can only see being “natural” as hypocritical if the person is doing the opposite of what they say.

As far as my man, I’m fine with him clipping nose/ear hair, trimming the love jungle, wearing deodorant and cologne. If he started preening excessively with waxing parts of his body or tanning then I’d think it silly but wouldn’t fault him. What would really bother me is if he wanted to start wearing clear nail polish on his finger/toe nails, I’ve just never appreciated that on a man but am fine if the sheen is from buffing. Go figure.

Me as a woman, I like smooth, shaved, moisturized skin, perfumes, lingerie, heels, jewelry and unshiny makeup. I don’t feel un natural, I don’t feel “made up.”

You’ve clearly never hung out with real hippies.~

Who says removing hair is unnatural? Hair removal appears to have been practiced basically forever by various peoples. Natural doesn’t mean ungroomed.

@Cruiser Since I wear clothes, does that make me a hypocrite? Maybe to a Naturalist. I suspect anyone who wears garments seem other than natural to them. Myself, I see clothes as being functional, if I had no pockets where would I put my wallet and keys?

@zenvelo Some people don’t express their preferences as “natural”; they may prefer women with a lot of make up , or with implants, or with shaved areas. Those people are not being hypocritical. Many men love a woman who is glammed up and well-manicured. I know guys who would not even consider a woman unless high-maintenance. They would be hypocritical saying the want a “Natural” woman but won’t deal with any woman who doesn’t have a teased, bleached, permed, styled, etc coif, and her lashes done, lips polished, etc. Some guys I know won’t even consider a woman if she doesn’t have a rack that enters the room 20 seconds before she does, even if you can drain them with a hat pin if you stuck it in deep enough.

@marinelife Isn’t that close to asking a woman if she has a boob job? Since I am not ashamed of it, I am. I didn’t really have the choice in it and if I did I may have chose the same thing. I can’t remember anyone in grade school not being cut. The pissing trough doesn’t lend to much hiding. Are you silicone-less? I love my women a natural 34A-B. ;-P

@mazingerz88 Thing is a lot of women can really pull it off NOT being natural. I concur, there are women who look better in makeup than out of it. Oprah for one. I say those women better keep away from camping. The woman that will emerge from the tent on day three might shock a lot of people because she won’t have the war paint to hide behind unless she is planning to bring half of a beauty parlor with here. They don’t call it made up for nothing.

@Facade When I say I’m “natural,” I’m referencing my extremely coily hair and the fact that I try to stay away from unnecessary chemicals as much as possible when it comes to food, hygiene, etc. I can only see being “natural” as hypocritical if the person is doing the opposite of what they say. The fact it goes beyond the coif, it extends to everything else. Not that anyone intends on being hypocritical about it, that even those who desire to be “Natural” or “organic”, cannot be totally, or it would be hard to do. A person who wanted to do that would find it hard working in a corporate office with a long beard to his belly and a mane to match, not to mention, the possibility of sweating through his shirt because he wore no antiperspirant. It is like a person wanting to live “green”, no matter how you try you cannot live 100% green in modern society. If you use a cell phone, wash your clothes with detergent. Even if you take a bus and not own a car you are leaving a carbon footprint. There is no way you could not use anything that contributes to the carbon footprint on the planet. It just can’t be done.

@incendiary_dan Who says removing hair is unnatural? Point me out a race of people or a species of animal that shaves its hair or fur as oppose to it naturally shedding and I will agree with you. Less those breeds that are born hairless or nearly hairless I don’t see any that go out to remove hair because they don’t want it on their bodies. To say intentional hair removal is natural in a biological way would be to say tattoos are just as natural. You can get them even if you did not make an effort to get one. Grooming is slightly different from what the body does naturally or not. If you had a really hairy chest would you wax it baby butt smooth?

@Hypocrisy_Central Defining what’s natural for humans by what other animals do is fallacious. Humans, as I have said, have practiced hair removal probably for as long as we’ve been around. Most of the indigenous peoples from my area and much of the northeast practiced plucking of all their body hair up until recently. My ancestors used to pluck out their hair to style the now well-known “mohawk”. This was true in Ireland, as well, for at least a thousand years.

And to mention some non-humans, I’ve seen hair, fur, and feather removal from various species, mostly in spring. Not a full on shaving, mind you, but removal of hair or fur nonetheless (very few of us do full on shaving, either, unless you’re a professional swimmer).

@Hypocrisy_Central Domestic and wild cats remove their own hair.

I barely ever shave my legs cuz I’m lazy, and although I attempt to remain polite, it happens that I let out an unintentional fart in public. It’s natural. Brand me for it. Watch me care. But fuck bars. I hate bars. I’ve worked in them often, but I don’t like going out to them.

Wait you mean the distinction thing here, and not a drinking establishment…

You don’t like makeup or pit hair. I denno where to go on from that. But as my dad always said, to all their own. Ain’t none of my business.

My men and my women can be as natural as can be, as long as their hygiene doesn’t give me Anthrax. Got me turn ons and me turn offs, but this may not be what this is about. XD

@Hypocrisy_Central I think you are forgetting the evolutional history of clothing. Many moons ago when man evolved from apes he was sufficiently covered in fur as provided by “nature”. When man decided he would like some lakefront property in the North woods he soon realized his natural fur was insufficient to survive the long cold winters and borrowed some bear fur to survive. When he traveled back south to trade his new found clothing, a fur trader named Arnold felt uncomfortable around his fur clothed vendor and subsequently invented the fig leaf loin cloth. And none of the above IMO is “natural” and IMO wearing anything more than what nature provides you by your definition makes you a hypocrite! ;)

@Cruiser Re:trhe 1st have of the response, What, what, wha…?

Psst I have admited when it comes to dealing with natural, my bar is not set totally on the deck. There are just some things I can’t get under it. As the Joker said, “I can take off my make up, lets see if you can take of your’s?”, that is general for everyone, not just you specific. :-)