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NSFW(!) Why is it that most Japanese women in their adult film industry do not seem to enjoy it?

Asked by mazingerz88 (23110points) November 18th, 2011

As opposed to most American and European women in porn who whether its authentic or not, move with a high degree of assertiveness and enthusiasm. Japanese women however, mostly squirm, whine and painfully moan.

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Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

Maybe it just seems that way to you, kind of cultural blindness…I don’t want to make any conclusions about Japanese women by watching their porn…but I have noticed what you noticed…I keep talking that they’re always meowing like kittens or making high-pitched sounds…I have jokingly analyzed these videos and said that the men must infantilize their women and like that they sound like defenseless children.

filmfann's avatar

I think @Simone_De_Beauvoir nailed it.
In their culture, the men want women to be submissive and defenseless. If they enjoy sex, the men don’t feel as dominant.

Berserker's avatar

That must be why hentai is so blown out of proportion lol. An element of balance goin on. I don’t know much about Japanese culture besides their horror movies. I’ve heard a few times what the two users above me said though. It’s a culture, to this day, very strong on discipline and social status, so maybe their porn plays a hand with the style it has?

rojo's avatar

Not that I am familiar with Japanese porn or anything, but is the penis is also pixeled out because it is pornographic, because someone might recognize it or because it looks bigger if you use huge pixels?

Blackberry's avatar

I don’t know what you’re talking about, most of the Japanese porn I see is women looking like they hate it.

Aethelflaed's avatar

I think I’m going to need to see this exact porn in order to have any kind of opinion.

XOIIO's avatar

@Blackberry I think you misread.

@rojo In japan, The female and male genitals actually put out a force field to prevent tentable attacks, and it is so strong it distorts the cameras.

zensky's avatar

Pics or it never happened.

Blackberry's avatar

@XOIIO Lol. That’s the second time today. I retract my previous statement. I think it’s because they know how offensive it is. Maybe they get shitty pay, it could be a number of things.

Berserker's avatar

@zensky You better be careful what you wish for.

You really better. I got sites, man. I’m not even fucking around.

Aethelflaed's avatar

We will take your sites. Links, please.

Berserker's avatar

My sites I was on about are hentai based, so it doesn’t have anything to do with this question. Although what @XOIIO said might be related, if you can stand to explore a bit haha. I don’t know to what extent I’m allowed to post this sort of resource on here, so I’ll take my chances with this.

ProTip; this isn’t actual porn.

ProTip Again; while on this site, don’t look up Guro.

zensky's avatar

@Symbeline I see you, and raise you one.

Aethelflaed's avatar

@Symbeline All the hentai I’ve seen, they were making the little kitten noises, but they didn’t seem to not be enjoying it.

zensky's avatar

The only Japanese porn I’ve seen, either by mistake (emailed link) or for medicinal purposes were of Japanese women either simulating being raped, being raped, or looking like they’d prefer to be anywhere else, maybe even raped.

XOIIO's avatar

I’ll just add that I have seen some good hentai, but yeah, a lot of it is the quiet submissive stuff which gets boring fast. Good quality stuff is hard to find.

Berserker's avatar

@Aethelflaed Yeah, that’s what I meant by hentai maybe being a hint of balance in contrast to not enjoying it. That is, if Japanese women don’t actually like sex, or find it painful. Which I doubt anyways, I mean in real life, and not through porn.

@XOIIO Yeah, I just have picture sites. Never really found any good hentai movies besides some La Blue Girl stuff. And I don’t like it when penises look like actual mushrooms. If I want that, I’ll watch that creepy Watership Down movie from the 70’s. (which is awesome, btw)

@zensky Never seen any actual Japanese porn in depth. But judging from some of their horror movies, which can sometimes be classified as slasher porn…damn.

zensky's avatar

@Symbeline The Japanese women in porn might take exception to the in depth part.

XOIIO's avatar

@Symbeline Yeah, mangas are better than most hentai movies, some of the flash games are alright, but nothing new really ever comes out.

vine's avatar

A useful exercise in this case would be comparing amateur Japanese porn to ‘professional’ (or studio) Japanese porn. The latter would be likely to market reassuring gender roles to its male audience, which accounts for the so-cute-and-helpless-as-to-be-infantile pattern that dominates it (i.e. Japanese studio porn). Amateur porn, having no image to sell or gender to reinforce, might be more honest in its depiction of reciprocable pleasure, but I wouldn’t know.

It’s commonly said that the implementation of Article 9 in Japan’s constitution represented a sort of sociocultural ‘emasculation’, and that the post-war culture is noticeably more feminine. Anyone familiar with Japan will know that anime and manga characters are often androgynous. Ditto male popstars, ditto male movie stars.

Maybe this blow to the male gender (or more accurately the ability to perform the male gender) created a desire in men for a similarly altered female gender, that is: more feminine, more passive, and always willing. The resultant super-feminine gender is, as far as I can tell, just a performative fiction that’s encouraged by male populations insecure with their own maleness.

Hence the Japanese term Lolita complex. Hence rape porn, which in Japan often depicts a young woman or schoolgirl being raped in a public, male-dominated space like a railway car.

FWIW and in case anyone was wondering: gay Japanese studio porn is the same. The man getting fucked makes similar annoying noises, squirms, etc. It’s not very fun to watch. It’s actually quite interesting because they’ll often market their models as ‘straight’ and ‘athletic’, but the gender being performed on camera hardly jibes with those descriptors.

Aethelflaed's avatar

@vine Yeah, but amateur is sort of a vague category. I mean, it often starts out as a couple just taping their sex and sharing it with other people, but then it often moves on to figuring out that you can sell it to other people, and then figuring out that the customers really like this one thing, so you’ll do that one thing more, and before you know it, the amateurs have become professionals…

thesparrow's avatar

They do that in anime porn too

thesparrow's avatar

I don’t find the Japanese males in porn attractive.

Neizvestnaya's avatar

The portrayed reactions of the women are supposed to heighten the male performer’s perceived masculinity.

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

I think it has to do with the fantasy of being dominant.

Also, am I the only one who thinks the men of Asian porn are… <ahem> small?

bob_'s avatar

Getting bukkaked doesn’t look all that enjoyable.

XOIIO's avatar

@bob_ you’d prefer gokun?

bob_'s avatar

@XOIIO Whatever your mother prefers.

XOIIO's avatar

@bob_ she says wear some goggles before her prison friends come over

thesparrow's avatar

Is it true Asians have small penises?

vine's avatar

@Aethelflaed – Very true. I’ve certainly been fooled by professional amateurs.

@thesparrow – Seems that way.

P.S. I meant ‘not always willing’ in my original post’s third ¶.

thesparrow's avatar

Asian women have tight vaginas, apparently.

XOIIO's avatar

@thesparrow Well all the men have small penises, so it must be that XD

thesparrow's avatar

Is that why white guys like Asian girls?

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