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Is the U.S. more... or less "safe" from NSA spying on their own citizens?

Asked by RealEyesRealizeRealLies (30951points) July 31st, 2013

I recently heard an argument that the U.S. is actually less safe because of the deluge of information the NSA now has to sort through. Instead of “profiling” their targets for more specific information, the widespread dragnet approach inundates them with so much info that they cannot possible rifle through it all.

The needle is still there… But they made the hay stack 400 million times larger.

Even when they are informed well in advance of the Boston Bomber potential threat (from the Russian Government), they cannot take the time to investigate properly because they’re too busy monitoring Grandma’s text messages to the kiddies.

Is the U.S. more… or less “safe” from NSA spying on their own citizens?

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Imadethisupwithnoforethought's avatar

Sure. Unless you are a reporter who would report negatively on the government, or you have an ex who works for the Feds. Only 4 million people have top secret access. What are the odds you have upset someone in that set?

gailcalled's avatar

Why is “safe” in quotation marks?

filmfann's avatar

Yes, we are more safe. The government is pretty good at knowing which information to ignore.
Have you gotten the plutonium yet?

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

@filmfann Is that why they ignored the Russian warnings of those responsible for the Boston Bombing?

Imadethisupwithnoforethought's avatar

@filmfann How do you know that? Did they classify everything and then report to you that they are really good at it?

I do know that the CIA just successfully won the right to keep classifying all of their records on the Bay of Pigs. I imagine because they are very proud of what they did. When was that relevant? 50 years ago?

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

@filmfann I’m sorry. I hope not my last comment sounded cutting. I actually meant it as a quick cutting reply. How tactless of me, when I could have spring boarded your comments into a productive conversation, rather than the beginning of a tit for tat spat.

I’m sorry.

To actually address your comment, I certainly would like to feel the way you claim things are. I just have a hard time believing what you believe. Thus far, the NSA cannot come to one shred of evidence that its spying tactics have led to any thwarting of terror. They claim a few instances, the the review of those claims has always revealed other methods were used to thwart an attack. The spying on U.S. citizens hasn’t done anything except make the information more difficult to sort. That’s the way I see it. I wish I could see it your way though.

woodcutter's avatar

There will never be a way to know for sure. Govt has become less transparent so you can never really believe what they are telling us is factual or misinformation, in the name of security…of course.

WestRiverrat's avatar

Less safe in my opinion. All it takes is one corrupt official in a key position to turn the full weight of the Federal Government against a person or group. And there will always be corruptible government officials.

mattbrowne's avatar

More and more Europeans feel threatened by the United Stasi of America (USA) and its National Stasi Agency (NSA) and are outraged by Americas reaction of “we couldn’t care less”.

There’s a price limit we should be agreeing on for our safety.

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