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Is it worse for a person of European DNA to mix with DNA of non-Europeans, or is it more a plus for non-Europeans to mix DNA with Europeans?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (26879points) August 11th, 2015

Following the interaction of this question, I got to thinking about my experiences in the past and wondered if others had experienced similar, or if it happened in other areas? When I was a kid, it was seen as a plus to be mixed with white; lighter skin, ”good hair”, etc. the teachers and merchants seem to treat you better and the cops did not jack you up as much. On the flip side, if you were white, and mixed with non-white blood it was seen as a step down; the non-white blood seem to hurt them worse than it helped non-white to mix into it. If you could not mix with white, Hispanic was the next best choice, still had nice bronze skin tone, ”good hair”, and features, etc. Asian and Black was so rare you could get hit with a meteor before you seen that union. In another word, an affluent white person would still be better off mating with a white person seen as ”poor white trash” than with Black or Hispanic (OK, Hispanic did not hurt as much), but Asian seemed to be OK, unless it was the really older people who still were seething over WWII. How was race perceived, handled, or seen where you grew up, and what era was it (decade wise)?

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whitenoise's avatar

It wasn’t.

At our house, though, we had a clear consensus that mostly couple of mixed color had better looking children.

I was extremely white, my skin would burn from the sun, even if I wore a t-shirt. I remember that most of my life I’ve been jealous of people with a little more color in their lineage.

So from a personal perspective… let’s mix.

(Too late for me, though.)

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

What decade did you grow up in, 60s, 70s, 50s? Where was the area, back East, down South, in the Heartland?

whitenoise's avatar

I grew up in Holland, born in1967.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

I bet there were not many Hispanics, Blacks, or Asians there then.

whitenoise's avatar

A few, but… nope, not many indeed. I think the first time I met a black person, face to face, I was in my teens.

We had a lot of friends of Indonesian descent, though. These would count as Asian.

I had a ‘Chinese’ boy join my class, when I was around 8 years old. His name was Arjan, though, which is as Dutch a name as you find them.

JLeslie's avatar

In my teens, and now, I definitely wish I was a little darker and able to handle the sun. I married someone with darker skin, and dark, full hair. If we had had children I would have been fascinated to produce children with darker coloring, who could be out in the sun without burning in 30 minutes. My husband’s family has thallessemia, common in the part of the world the family is from, so mixing with people from other regions helps the chance the trait won’t be passed on.

But, to say European, Europe is large. Southern Italy and the Iberian peninsula are the “Hispanic” you basically speak of in Latin America. Also, the Greeks, and some other areas of Europe have darker skin, and some possible genetic differences than Northern Europe. Back to Latin America there are Indians/indigenous people, but also many Germans and some Russians, and people who are very “white.” In America we call anyone from Latin America Hispanic, even when they are not from the Iberian Peninsula.

To me mixing is just normal. How many people in America are 100% from one country? I guess as a white person I think of Italian and Irish as “mixing.” Simply because they are different backgrounds, not because of skin color. The Italian person could easily be fair, and the Irish person might have darker traits. My girlfriend who is Polish and German, everyone in the family is white, but we still divide it up.

Race was not the only factor, culture and social class had a lot to do with who mixed. I think how diverse a community was had a lot of influence too.

Dutchess_III's avatar

There is no “better” or “worse,” unless you’re talking about inbreeding within a family.

Any stranger contribution to the gene pool makes everything stronger.

To what @whitenoise said, my kid’s dad is 1/16 Indonesian. His family was from Holland.
I am half Dutch and it is rumored that our family had “black Dutch” (That’s what my Mom said the Indonesians in Holland were called) genes. My Mom had that olive skin and exotic look. My sister gets mistaken for an American Indian all the time. However, I am very fair skinned, blond and blue eyes. But I carry the “black Dutch” genes.

I have the most incredibly beautiful and handsome children and grandchildren, because of this blend, that you could ever hope to see.
They are all above average in intelligence. Which could be my proud imagination! But time will tell.

My son married a woman of Native American descent. Their offspring are super unique! -

One of my grandkid’s father is of Mexican descent. He’s gorgeous, and I’m not imagining things when I say that kid is smart.

The only line we’re missing is African. Sniff. But we’ll see what the future brings.

I have three kids, and 10 grandkids. Aren’t you proud of me for only posting 5 pictures??!!

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

^ There is no “better” or “worse,” unless you’re talking about inbreeding within a family.
It is not a literal “better” or “worse”, but a perceived one. Just as years back in the 30s and 40s Italians did not look upon Blacks favorably, or other white Americans did not look on Italians favorably, and many did not look upon the Irish favorably. Some (was many more in the past) looked at having any visible non-white traits because of parents of different races, if the so-call lesser parent’s (those that were not white) dominated, it was seen as a step back. On the flip side, if you were of the race seen as lesser, to have the genes and visible traits of the race seen as “better” was a positive thing.

I have the most incredibly beautiful and handsome children and grandchildren, because of this blend, that you could ever hope to see.
No argument they are handsome kids, but if I saw them at MaDonalds in the line ahead of me, I would just assume them Caucasian with no other clues to go on. Now the boy in the straw hat, I would assume, even without the straw hat, him to be Hispanic, not figuring he had any white parents at all, at worse I would have thought him from the Middle East. The non-Caucasian genes he has are dominant enough to make an appearance.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I only posted pictures of 4 of the 10 kids.
Also, it helped pin point the one kid as hispanic because he has on a hat that makes him look like a migrant worker. :)
But for the most part they’re white. But every so often the Asian strain pops out, especially in the kids my son and his part-native-American wife have.
It’s a happy mess! Geez, I have a set of twins grandkids. One of the twins is blond, with the bluest eyes you’ve ever seen, and the straightest hair you’ve ever seen. My daughter cries that the kid is growing a mullet! Her twin brother has curly hair, darker skin, and black, black eyes.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Anyway, to answer the question from a perception POV, as you suggested above, the answer would be “It depends on how stupidly racist a person is.”

JLeslie's avatar

Reminds of one time I took my niece (her mom is Hispanic, but that’s my husband’s family remember, and they are Israeli, Spanish and French; and the dad is Northern Italian) and my girlfriend’s daughter (my girlfriend is black and so is her husband, and her daughter was what most people would call light skinned black) to McDonald’s. I’m standing in line with the two little girls, and this man standing in line also, looks at me and the girls and asks, “do they have the same father?” I replied, “nope.”

Dutchess_III's avatar

What a moron!

I was subbing in a classroom, and at the beginning of the day this particular class started in with 20 questions.
One of the kids asked, “Do all your kids have the same father?”
I looked around at the expectant faces and said, “Yes, but one of them has a different mother.”
It got very quietly confused, and I just waited, until light bulbs started popping off! It was fun.

JLeslie's avatar

It didn’t bother me. The only situation I think it would bother me would be if the kids were adopted or being fostered and they were sensitive maybe about being singled out in some way. For that possibility he shouldn’t ask, but in general it wouldn’t bother me.

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