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Do you think they should #GiveElsaAGirlfriend?

Asked by Lemley (285points) July 7th, 2016

I’ve recently bumped into this hashtag and have been introduced to the whole issue and the controversy that was bound to follow.

What do you think?

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Mariah's avatar

Honestly it seemed like a huge step for Disney even to just leave her single, which I appreciated. It would have been totally out of character for her to have been ready for a relationship in Frozen so it was nice to see a female character putting her own needs first.

That said, if they can make it make sense for her to have a love interest in a sequel, it’d be awesome if she were the first Disney lesbian.

Seek's avatar

I’d much rather them give Mulan a girlfriend (and another movie) and ditch the abusive ice princess and her whole overrated franchise.

Buttonstc's avatar

To borrow an overused old time movie quote: “Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.”

MrGrimm888's avatar

Disney is a business that focuses on family entertainment. I suppose it wouldn’t be the worst thing that ever happened. But why can’t she just not have any significant other? If I were Disney, in this day and age, I would avoid the topic entirely. Not because it is wrong in my opinion, just because of the potential backlash. I’ve said before, that all females are bisexual. But that comment has no place in a family movie. I get it that people want to start teaching children to understand homosexuality, but Disney hasn’t really covered heterosexuality yet either. In their movies, characters might kiss, but that’s about it. They are all hetero, but homosexuals are a minority, so depicting their characters as heterosexual is justified to me.
If parents want to teach their children about homosexuality, they can do it in many ways of their own choosing. To start injecting homosexuality into everything is a little much
. I suppose some would want , let’s say a homosexual little girl, to have a character to relate to. There is no flaw in that thinking. But why can’t the gay little girl identify with other traits of the characters, like their fashion, or a catch phrase, or their actions. I liked Dumbo. But Disney didn’t have to add to his character liking GIJOE, or transformers like I did at the time to make me relate to his hardship. I can relate to someone who is gay, without being gay. Can’t a gay child relate to a character without the character also being gay?
I think there may be a time when Disney has openly gay characters. But I wouldn’t want all the BS that would come along with it at this point. Some idiot homophobe might shoot up the theatre that’s played it. Killing dozens of kids or something.
Teaching the world respect and coexistence in regards to homosexuality is the same as any other civil rights movement. If you force it on people all at once, there will be resistance. In my lifetime , views of homosexual people have changed dramatically. It’s getting there. But keep in mind, this isn’t a tolerant world. It’s not like gays are the only minority trying to gain equal footing.

ragingloli's avatar

As long as that girlfriend is her sister, yes.

elbanditoroso's avatar

Silly political correctness.

You write for the betterment of the plot (theoretically) not to add a gay character for the sake of adding a gay character.

Is there a plot requirement to give Elsa a girlfriend? I seriously doubt it.

This movement #giveelsa…. seems silly trivial and ultimately damaging.

longgone's avatar

What’s the lesson here? When a girl rejects the prince, she’s got to be a lesbian? The whole thing is really confusing to me.

Mariah's avatar

Elsa didn’t reject any men in Frozen. There was no hint of love interest of any kind for Elsa in Frozen.

longgone's avatar

^ Of course. I always get Elsa and Anna confused.

Irukandji's avatar

@elbanditoroso People don’t just write for the betterment of the plot. If they did, there wouldn’t be any reason to write at all. The plot is itself for something else, such as the entertainment or edification of the audience. Some people write to amuse society. Others write to improve society. A society that ignores elements of itself in its stories is worse than one that represents all elements of itself. Therefore, there are good reasons to have stories out there that represent minority characters. Whether or not this one needs to go that way is a different question. But boiling it all down to “for the betterment of the plot” is vacuous.

Darth_Algar's avatar


Well said. If all art avoided political/social topics then we would no art worth talking about.

Darth_Algar's avatar

At any rate I think Disney would be more likely to start with secondary/supporting characters, rather than main characters. I know that Star Wars (if you want to count that as Disney) has already began subtly placing in some (albeit minor) lesbian/gay characters. I’m pretty sure that Temmin Wexley (played by Greg Grunberg in ‘the Force Awakens’) is revealed in one of the novels to have been raised by two lesbian women. Granted the novels, while devoured by the die-hard fanbase, don’t have the exposure with the general public that the films do, but it’s a start I suppose.

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