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Why did Interpol shut down Iran’s request for Trump arrest?

Asked by luigirovatti (1828points) 1 month ago

According to Interpol, it’s because it is of a political, military, religious or racial character (the word “political” was also used by the U.S. Special Envoy for Iran, Brian Hook, by the way). But, let’s be honest, political is killing Soleimani, political is soaring the regional tensions and oil prices, NOT arresting Trump. Or is the concept eye-for-an-eye still valid in 2020?

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ragingloli's avatar

Well, the colonies threatened members of the ICC and their families, for daring to investigate colonials for war crimes.
Perhaps Interpol is trying to prevent that by rejecting the request. Ergo, cowardice.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Interpol rarely acknowledges jurisdiction over the REALLY big criminals.

Yellowdog's avatar

A more serious question would be, why has Interpol not able to take out Soleimani. Why have they gone soft on international terror? In any case, if this is a serious question, Interpol does not do the dirty work of terrorists or individuals with plans to kill large numbers of people.

seawulf575's avatar

Soleimani was an aggressive, terroristic member of the Iranian army. He was responsible for many lives, not just of Americans but other nations as well. He is a military target. Whether Trump had the authority per our nation to hit him is up for debate, but that is internal to our nation. Iran asking Interpol to take out an arrest warrant for the leader of another nation is ridiculous on its face. That is totally political. I mean, if that was all it took then every time Soleimani undertook some terrorist attack and killed an American, we should swear out an arrest warrant for the Ayotollah Kamenei. Isn’t that the same reasoning?

luigirovatti's avatar

@Yellowdog: But killing is not the solution.
@seawulf575: I never said the Ayotollah should have been arrested for war crimes.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@Yellowdog

Because that doesn’t fall under INTERPOL’s charter. Neither, for that matter, does Iran’s warrant for Donald Trump.

And INTERPOL is not, itself a law enforcement agency. It provides support, training to, and facilitates communication between, law enforcement agencies of its member nations.

luigirovatti's avatar

@Yellowdog: ERRATA CORRIGE: shouldn’t.

seawulf575's avatar

@luigirovatti No, you never did. My point is that Interpol doesn’t get involved with political things for this exact reason. If one country gets mad at another, they can just call for the other leader to be arrested. It becomes a political weapon.

luigirovatti's avatar

@seawulf575: If the crime was staged I would agree with you. But, if a full inquiry would attest that Trump ordered the killing of Soleimani, he should be arrested.

luigirovatti's avatar

@seawulf575: The point I’m trying to make is that even if Interpol doesn’t arrest Trump, someone must.

Zaku's avatar

As Darth Algar wrote, INTERPOL is not like the Super Friends or Justice League… it doesn’t go after criminals by itself. It assists local law enforcement where that makes sense.

q.v. https://www.interpol.int/en/Who-we-are/What-is-INTERPOL

luigirovatti's avatar

@Darth_Algar, @Zaku: I’m sorry if I gave the impression I did not read your posts. It’s just that @seawulf575 deserved a response for he was making a strong argument, which I could not ignore, but that had nothing to do with you.

seawulf575's avatar

@luigirovatti Trump probably did order the killing of Soleimani. I would hope he did, or that one of his generals did under the guidance of his policies. Otherwise you have some really rogue soldiers out there in US uniforms. But I think you need to go back in time for a few decades to fully understand who Soleimani was and what led to his being targeted. Soleimani was the leader of the Qud forces in Iran. The Qud forces are a special band (about 125,000 men) of soldiers whose function is to fight asymmetrical warfare in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebannon, and Afghanistan. This means they infiltrated and help build destabilizing factors against governments they didn’t like. They undertook terrorist style attacks. They helped train and form groups like Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations all in an effort to destabilize any government that wasn’t beneficial to Iran. Soleimani helped form this group and has directed it since 1998. Partly because of the actions of the Qud forces, Iran was named as a proliferator of terrorist organizations by Bush II in 2002. In 2011 the US Treasury put Soleimani onto the sanctions blacklist because of the terrorist activities he was involved with.
The killing of Soleimani was based on a long history of intelligence that he was behind, either directly or indirectly, many, many terrorist attacks. And the rocket attack on Dec 27, 2019 on a base in Iraq was one of those and it killed an American and several Iraqis and wounded many more. That was the trigger of mutual aggression between the US and Iran that went on for the next few days, culminating in the drone attack that killed Soleimani on Jan 3rd, 2020. Soleimani was not a nice man. He was not a harmless man.
Given all that, and understanding that there is probably tons of intelligence to which neither you nor I are privy, I’m really not sure where the idea that Trump must be arrested comes from. Are you suggesting that if someone attacks our people the POTUS should not use force in response or else should be arrested? Do you have the same feeling about Obama having Osama bin Laden killed? Should we have Robert Mueller arrested for creating the FBI’s Terrorist Top 10 list?
Let me give you an real-life example of a POTUS that does not use force to protect our people and how it worked out. Jimmy Carter. 52 US diplomats were taken hostage by Iran in 1979 and were held hostage for 444 days, Carter tried gentle diplomacy to get them back. Iran viewed that as weakness. The hostages were held until Reagan, who had campaigned partly on a promise to take severe military action against Iran to get them back, was sworn into office. Literally minutes after he was sworn in, Iran released the hostages. So is that the sort of leader you want for our nation? One that is viewed as being so weak that our people can be snatched overseas at a whim? And does that mean any US leader that has ever taken action against a foreign aggressor should be arrested?

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