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Patty_Melt's avatar

Is it true that Republicans are attempting to disband the DNC?

Asked by Patty_Melt (15927points) 1 week ago

I saw a post on YT about it. It was not a source I am familiar with. Supposedly, they are citing the recent demands from Democrats to disallow any political entity to exist which had ties to slavery, or supported racism associated with slavery.

Is this really a thing?

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lastexit's avatar

I’m not sure what you saw on YT. I know that Louie Gohmert introduced a resolution to disband the Democratic Party on the basis that up until about 1963, most Southern Dems were against civil rights. I believe that changed with Lyndon Johnson signing the Civil Rights Act in 1964. That was a bill that JFK championed before his death in 1963.

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Darth_Algar's avatar

Louie Gohmert (a man whose most notable accomplishment is having a last name that sounds awfully close to “Gomer”) introduced a resolution to ban the Democratic Party due to their historic ties to the Confederacy and the KKK. He’s basically trolling in an idiotic (even by his usual standards) attempt at reverse “cancel-culture”. Granted, this is also a man who believes that caribou can’t have sex without the Alaskan Pipeline, so make of that what you will…

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seawulf575's avatar

Gohmert got tired of hearing endless resolutions being passed to do away with this statue or that painting or rename this building all because of the potential they might bring up negative connotations with slavery. So he wrote a resolution and proposed it to the House. Basically he gave a couple pages of “whereas” examples of how we are trying to protect people from our horrible past of slavery, then made the proposal that any government person or organization or political party that had ever supported slavery or segregation in any way should either be renamed or forced to disband from all public service…for the same reason that we need to get rid of statues and rename buildings and streets. I applaud him! I mean, after all, most (probably all) of the statues that are of people that were in favor of slavery were all Democrats. The KKK was formed by Democrats. Jim Crow laws were all drafted and passed by Democrats. The Democratic Party WAS the party of slavery. It doesn’t matter if they have changed or not. After all, isn’t the argument against Washington or Jefferson that they once owned slaves? It doesn’t matter what else they might have done or how they ended their lives, they once owned slaves so that is a horrible reminder of slavery, right? Well….I give you the Democrat party. Time to get rid of them. Or make them rebrand right now. I mean we can’t even have sports teams that might have names that could offend someone, right? Well, the Democrats offend me because of their past involvement against Blacks.

Patty_Melt's avatar

Thanks, @lastexit and @seawulf575. I get it now.

I gave GA to a couple of opinions too, because they were reined in.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

@seawulf575 your KKK and Dixiecrats left the party when LBJ signed The Civil Rights Act of 1964. They became the Southern Republicans, they were pissed a Democratic President signed for equal rights for blacks. They were the Dixiecrats and members of the KKK going back to the mid 1800’s. That is your Democrats equal slave owners.

@seawulf575 read the history of the Republican party in 1964, they were the sons and daughters of slave owners.

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seawulf575's avatar

@Tropical_Willie I know that is your belief. But it is irrelevant to the issue at hand. The drive these days is to focus solely on slave ownership in the deep dark past regardless of what other accomplishments may have occurred. I give you George Washington or Thomas Jefferson as examples. There are calls to get rid of their statues or rename things because at one point they owned slaves. That is all that matters apparently. Forget that they risked their lives fighting to throw off the yoke of tyranny from GB. Forget that they drafted the foundations of the country, a country that became at one point a beacon to the rest of the world. BTW, all the socialistic efforts have changed that. But the rest of their lives or accomplishments mean nothing because they owned slaves. Well…the Democrats fought for keeping slavery….it was the Republicans that opposed it. It was the Democrats that performed or supported just about every atrocity in our past in relation to blacks. So it is time to get rid of the name at a minimum. If they have changed then let them change their party name since it is steeped in racism. Or let them disband altogether.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

Why do @seawulf575 and @Yellowdog ignore the mass departure of Southern Democrats to the Republican party after 1964 ? ?

Oh know that would refute their premise that Democrats are historically slave owners.

seawulf575's avatar

@Tropical_Willie Why do you ignore the huge part the Democratic Party played in slavery and segregation in this country? I mean, the Presumptive Democratic candidate for POTUS in 1977 was trying to fight against busing. He still wanted blacks in different schools! Check out page 251, to see the exact quotes, though the entire report is full of his racism. Why is it so hard to hold Dems to the same standard to which you want to hold everyone else?

Tropical_Willie's avatar

Okay you win !! You can’t see the date 1964 !

It is not the same members > You really don’t understand the members that left the Democratic let me repeat
LEFT the Democratic party in 1964 and became REPUBLICANS !

The passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a significant event in converting the Deep South to the Republican Party; in that year most Senatorial Republicans supported the Act (most of the opposition came from Southern Democrats). From the end of the Civil War to 1960 Democrats had solid control over the southern states in presidential elections, hence the term “Solid South” to describe the states’ Democratic preference. After the passage of this Act, however, their willingness to support Republicans on a presidential level increased demonstrably. Goldwater won many of the “Solid South” states over Democratic candidate Lyndon Johnson, himself a Texan, and with many this Republican support continued and seeped down the ballot to congressional, state, and ultimately local levels. A further significant item of legislation was the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which targeted for preclearance by the U.S. Department of Justice any election-law change in areas where African-American voting participation was lower than the norm (most but not all of these areas were in the South); the effect of the Voting Rights Act on southern elections was profound, including the by-product that some White Southerners perceived it as meddling while Black voters universally appreciated it. The trend toward acceptance of Republican identification among Southern White voters was bolstered in the next two elections by Richard Nixon.

Several prominent conservative Democrats switched parties to become Republicans, including Strom Thurmond, John Connally and Mills E. Godwin Jr !

Tropical_Willie's avatar

I know @seawulf575 you’re going to put your hands over your eyes and go . . . LA-LA-LA it never happened.

Darth_Algar's avatar

Johnson knew when he signed the Civil Rights Act that it would cost Democrats the South for generations to come.

seawulf575's avatar

@Tropical_Willie You are entirely dodging the point. Did Thomas Jefferson do anything else with his life besides own slaves? Of course he did. But you dolts on the left want to negate all that because you want to make his slave ownership the end-all-be-all of his life. We need to have all reminders of him entirely eradicated because it’s such a painful reminder of a dark time in our past. Well, apply that same logic to the Democratic party who did far more damage to blacks throughout our history. They may have done other things, but honestly, they were key players in the Civil War, the formation of the KKK, the segregation laws, the Jim Crow laws, and just about everything else. I just gave you an example from 1977 where the current presumptive Democratic candidate for POTUS was STILL pushing for segregation. We need them to rename their party or just disband in shame for all the damage they have caused. THAT is the entire point of this entire thread. Gohmert proposed this resolution in response to all the hoo-haw the Dems were going through trying to pass resolutions about getting rid of statues and pictures and renaming buildings all because of this same “reminder” of our dark past. THAT is the entire point and it is one you are absolutely adamant you will avoid at all costs because you know I’m right. You cannot admit that all the bullshit about “reminders” are just fluff to destroy this country and have nothing at all to do with slavery in our past. Because if they really were about slavery and that was all it was about, you would have to throw the Democratic Party into that same mix for the exact same reasons.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

They’re are not the same Democrats . Your “Democratic leaders of KKK” were the Dixiecrats and YOU don’t see that !!
It’s like i said LA LA LA LA LA LA LA is your only answer.

SMDH.

seawulf575's avatar

It doesn’t matter that they are not the same Democrats. Their name alone is baked right into all the evil that has happened. Isn’t that the point of all these idiotic things the Dems want to get rid of? They are all reminders of the past? Well….There you go. And you continue to try avoiding that fact. The Washington Redskins were just shamed into changing the team name and they weren’t really offensive. Team names are often based on something that was deemed to be fearsome. AmerInds have a long history of being fierce fighters and have done some absolutely horrible things to their enemies. But the name might offend someone so it is time to change it! Well….there you go. The Democrats WERE the source of all the evils surrounding blacks, slavery, and segregation. Time to get rid of the name. Or disband the organization altogether.

plugnalong's avatar

I’ve not heard that the Republicans are trying to ban the DMC, however I think it would be for the better if they did.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

@seawulf575 Obviously you are not Native American, just a bias Republican.

Are you going to move to Russia when Trump loses the election and he moves into Putin’s palace? J.K.

Republicans renamed next when Putin takes over Europe ! At least that is this century !

For what’s worth do you approve of the bounty Putin put on soldiers in Afghanistan. Trump apparently does care. He didn’t question Putin on the subject.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@plugnalong

You want a one-party state?

Yellowdog's avatar

@Tropical_Willie That’s not all that unusual for one brand of enemies offering a bounty to another enemy for the death of Americans, Israelis, etc.

In any case, nobody in our government could affirm that it even happened. Just because you read something in the New York Times, or some tabaloid at the grocery check out, doesn’t mean its true,

Tropical_Willie's avatar

PUTIN is the one paying bounties!

But @Yellowdog – - – Putin is Trump’s Best Friend Forever !!! !!

‘Cause Putin might be paying off the loans Trump got from the Russian Mafia to build the Trumps Resorts; after he went bankrupt so many time, he couldn’t get a loan from US Banks.

Come on – - – @Yellowdog you believe the answer to COVID-19 is hydroxychloroquine because Trump says so !! You know Donnie Jr and Eric have shell corporation set-up with large blocks of stock from the drug companies that make it.

I believe in science and reality, you believe in Trump.

seawulf575's avatar

@Tropical_Willie Trying to dodge and going off on a Hate-Trump rant still doesn’t help you. You are avoiding the hypocrisy of your heroes on the left.

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Tropical_Willie's avatar

The hypocrisy is the lying and misleading claims from Trump with 20,000 and counting Tsunami of untruths’: Trump has made 20,000 false or misleading claims –

You don’t like Democrats but love a liar !

Yellowdog's avatar

@Tropical_Willie hydroxychloroquine is a generic drug, not a brand name.

It is the reason why third-wold countries, such as in sub-Sahara Africa. have fewer than 1% of the death rate of the U.S. per thousand—and why Israel, South Korea, China, and France recovered rather quickly.

It is the interests of major pharmaceutical companies to make high profits off other drugs that has kept generic, common, sixty-year-old drugs one cannot profit from, banned in the U.S.

Yellowdog's avatar

No one makes a profit from hydroxychloriquine

Tropical_Willie's avatar

The Trump child Fucked up from the get go and still is !

The start it was you don’t need masks and Wuhan Flu. He held several election campaign rallies;

all no mask ! He didn’t wear a mask in public until almost 5 months later.

Taiwan COVID-19 numbers they took it serious not Wuhan Flu. Read it @Yellowdog and tell how they did it wrong and came out so well, dare ya !

1200 times more case per 100,00 people in Trump land !! He is still Fucking up!

Stay healthy

seawulf575's avatar

@Tropical_Willie Still dodging. Using bogus claims by WaPo really doesn’t help your credibility either. I have already (in a previous thread) torn this list apart. But in the end, you still haven’t addressed why everything that reminds anyone of slavery or racial segregation excludes the Democratic Party which was at the heart of everything. Go ahead…try to dodge again. All you are doing is confirming what I already know: You are basted in Trump Hate and brainwashed by the left to the point that you cannot physically or psychologically even consider that the Dems could ever have been bad.

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SEKA's avatar

Go back and follow our history. Strom Thurmond from SC was a Dem, then he switched to Dixiecrat, then to Rep. In his younger days he belonged to the KKK. He was the oldest Senator on the Floor until his death and was the head of the Senate Judiciary Committee for many years. After he died, it came out that as a teen that he had gotten one of his maids pregnant and she had bore him a daughter who he paid to keep her mouth shut for as long a he lived. He hid her for as long as he felt it would benefit hi political career. After his death, his children welcomed her into the family

seawulf575's avatar

@SEKA That is a good story. But it doesn’t change the realities. We, in this country (the USA), have a group that are going crazy to do away with anything that might have some minor tie to slavery in our past. The ostensible reason is that it is a horrible reminder. In many cases, it doesn’t matter what else the people that are those reminders might have done…just that they owned slaves. They were slave owners so we need to ban them. Well…I’m just applying that logic to the Democratic Party. They WERE the south during the Civil War. They were responsible for one of the bloodiest wars our nation has ever seen and their impetus was partly to keep slavery. When that war ended, they continued to try denying Blacks in this country their rights. Democrats formed the KKK. They passed Jim Crow laws. It goes on and on. And now they presumptive candidate for POTUS who has actively, as a US Senator, spoken out to keep blacks out of white schools. That was in 1977. So with all this long, long history of racism, why aren’t we actively asking them to either change their name or to disband? Why are we NOT holding them accountable?

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