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Does anyone know who the next villan for the next batman film?

Asked by dfwil145 (10points) September 7th, 2008 from iPhone

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El_Cadejo's avatar

It hasnt been announced yet. I do know it wont be Penguin or probably catwoman for that matter. If i had to guess id say Riddler. He would work rather well with this story line as he is a realistic character that Nolan would be able to let us see inside his head like he’s done with the other villains.

iwamoto's avatar

I love these questions, like someone will say “yeah, I know, it’s ****” oh well, I guess the riddler is a good guess though, nolans villains are all just “normal” poeple

nlaeditor's avatar

Rumor has it the Riddler is on the short list.

stratman37's avatar

Your Mom’s on the short list! j/k :)

sarapnsc's avatar

Omarosa Manigault-Stallworth, she wouldn’t even have to act…...

Wine3213's avatar

I heard a rumor that they were either going to do The Riddler, or Bane.

MrMeltedCrayon's avatar

The rumors I heard said that Johnny Deep was being considered for the Riddler and Philip Seymour Hoffman for the Penguin. But seeing as how those were just rumors, I wouldn’t bet money on ‘em or anything.

El_Cadejo's avatar

Nolan said he does not want to use the Penguin in his movies. He doesn’t think hes a good character, though hed love to work with Philip Seymour Hoffman. And while i like Johnny Depp i reaaaaaally hope hes not the riddler. I dont think he’d be very good. Id really like to see Doug Jones as the Riddler. He would be perfect.

benseven's avatar

I love Johnny Deep ;)

ezraglenn's avatar

I thought the whole point of Dark Night was that the mayor guy became Two Face. Won’t Harvey Dent be the next villain?

dalepetrie's avatar

I heard that rumor about Johnny Depp as the Riddler, but hadn’t heard about PSH as the Penguin. A friend of mine who is big into comics/graphic novels told me he’d heard Angelina Jolie as Catwoman.

iwamoto's avatar

@ezraglenn: didn’t he die? Or did batman say “tell them I killed him” as a filler ?

jballou's avatar

There are a lot of rumors around, but you really sholdn’t believe any of them. People are speculating the Riddler, Catwoman, and Penguin the most because those are the most high profile villains from the books that have yet to turn up in Nolan’s movies.

But considering that there is no script in place and that Nolan might not even make a third movie at all- I wouldn’t take ANY rumor out there seriously.

At this point, everyone’s just guessing.

dalepetrie's avatar

What sucks about Nolan backing away is that it made SO much money, they’ll just give the reigns over to someone else like they did when Tim Burton gave over the reigns to Joel Schumaker. They’ll pick someone less competent and the quality just won’t be there, but they’ll ride it for 2, maybe 3 more sequels until it’s a joke.

MrMeltedCrayon's avatar

Personally, I don’t see what’s so special about Nolan. I don’t like his take on the Batman series and already find it to be a joke. His Joker, for example – Heath Ledger played an incredible part, but it just didn’t feel like the Joker to me. I think Nolan is too concerned with making the series realistic, and when you take the make believe out of super heroes and villains you generally end up with something sillier than what you had before.

El_Cadejo's avatar

@MrMeltedCrayon…....seriously? i mean seriously? Have you ever picked up a Batman comic in your life? Nolans representation of Batman is the greatest fucking thing ever. Nolan made it realistic, because thats what Batman is. Batman isnt supposed to be some outlandish make believe story like superman is. Batman is something that could in some construed world actually happen. No one has super powers, they are all humans just like you and i, they are just very demented. I think Nolan did a great job showing this. As far as what your saying about the Joker, i couldnt disagree with you more. That was the Joker, about as accurate of a reincarnation as ive ever seen for that matter. Id love to know what the Joker “feels” like to you? Is it Jack Nicholson? Haha hehe? Lame. No no the Joker is so much more than that. He is evil, sadistic, and yet funny. Why so serious?

MrMeltedCrayon's avatar

Have you ever picked up a Batman comic? May I remind you that for supposedly being so realistic, he’s an angst ridden adult that dresses up as a bat while using gadgets that the military would love to have. I’d also like to point out that he’s in the same universe as such notable superheroes as Superman, Wonder Woman and Aquaman, none of which are anywhere near realistic. I could also point you toward tons of story arcs involving Batman and his Gotham city chums and rivals that have little to no realism at all. A particular favorite of mine is the Emperor Joker plot. WHOA BUDDY, SUPER REALISM RIGHT THERE.

And yes, Jack Nicholson’s representation of the Joker was, to me, more accurate. Especially in appearance. I mean, really, are you trying to tell me that when you pick of a Batman comic with the Joker in it, you see Heath Ledger with greasy hair, bad make up and an aura of slimy angst that could rival Batman’s? No, you’ll see a guy with chemically bleached skin, bright green hair and a permanently fixed grin.

“He is evil, sadistic, and yet funny.”

You meant occasionally, right? I’m going out on a limb here and assuming you read the comics, which means you would know that the Joker’s personality is shifting and changing constantly, which means he doesn’t always fit the bill you’ve slapped on him. One moment he’s a mass murderer, the next he’s a reclusive and grumpy guy that just wants to be left alone, then he’s a harmless fella just looking to make people laugh. The Joker is great precisely because he isn’t cookie cutter WHOA GRIMDARK like most of the Gotham line up, and I feel Nolan failed to truly get that across.

tl;dr – Sorry if you don’t like my opinion, but I have my reasons for having it just as I’m sure you have yours. Also, kudos to you for making me look like a lame ass by goading me into passionately arguing about a comic book character. I see a future for myself as the obese comic store guy from the Simpsons now, and it’s all thanks to you!

El_Cadejo's avatar

GA for putting tl;dr (though i did read it all) ^_^

Nolans Batman was based off of Frank Millers Dark Knight though. Which was “WHOA GRIMDARK” I do agree with you on most of what you said about the joker though.Except the nicholson part :).(honestly i think the best representation of the joker was mark hamill in BTAS) The joker has no origins there is no jack napier and i think Nolans representation of this worked pretty well with how hes so messed up in his head, that he doesnt even know his origin anymore.

I do realize that Batman is in the same universe as Superman(lame) aquaman, and wonderwoman. But still i think the thing that makes Batman so cool is that he is realistic, and im sure im not alone when i say this, but thats one of the main reason i like him. He doesnt have any super powers, hes just a normal guy.(obviously has some issues, but still just a human)

MrMeltedCrayon we have differing opinions on this matter, but i lurve ye still, sorry for offending you saying you’ve never picked up a comic you have proved yourself without a shadow of a doubt ^_^

MrMeltedCrayon's avatar

Well, it’s good that we can at least agree to disagree. Let us put our e-Peens down as a symbolic gesture of peace and have the minions prepare a grand feast!

jballou's avatar

The beauty of Batman as a character is that he is more or less a detective. The costume and the bad guys featured in his books are just the window dressing. Batman has no powers and his stories are generally about character.

To try to label all of Batman’s history as “realistic” though, is quite silly, because after all, he has been handled by so many writers and so many editorial edicts that any singular personality just doesn’t exist.

But Batman is as close to a traditional literary character as you will find in almost any modern popular superhero book- and a great writer (like Chris Nolan, and his brother Jonathan) can do great things with that character. Not in spite of, but because of that very convoluted history that contains little continuity of personality. He becomes flexible. And that’s pure gold in the hands of a great writer.

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