Does anyone here believe there is a chance in hell that the desire for liberal democracy can take precedence over nationalism in Russia?

Yes I have hope for Russia’s youth to advance democracy. I don’t know what the term “liberal” is in a liberal democracy. Also they are realizing that he who owns the gold makes the rules.

In regards to Russians, it likely depends on a multitude of variables.
For instance, age, experience with life before the USSR collapse, whatever they define as a democracy etc…

Speaking as a “westerner,” I believe that democracy, is an illusion of control. Democracies, give people the “power.” Making them feel “free,” and therefore easier for their government to manipulate.

A true democracy/freedom has never been experienced, by any man.

I can hear, the sheep’s wheels turning… What about the USA?..

Shaking my head…..

As far as Ukrainians, I believe that they feel pride in their culture, and survival. Mostly. Although that is an oversimplification…

I’m hoping America doesn’t fall to the nationalists here! The alt-right propaganda machine is unbelievable across the world. Scary.

As far as Russia, I don’t know. There are a lot of people in that country who remember communism, and don’t want it back, but as far as nationalism and dictators, a lot of Russia seems to like Putin. Hard to tell.

I’ll be interested to see other jelly answers.

In our present time of new technologies and a younger generation as the older ones pass on .
These younger ones have not gone through two world wars and so on and they will not accept yet another tyrant in power, so I see a revolution will occur in Russia as many are pushing back the control that Putin takes for granted.
( remember that France history showed a Revolution when peasants had pushed back..and so it could very well happen again in our time)

^^I think sometimes people who never experienced war are naive about it, and that can be detrimental.

Forecast is for fog of war, followed by moral confusion & scattered atrocities. Chance of hell 50%, increasing to 70% later in the week.

Highs – not really any, lows – everywhere. Dress accordingly.

No chance while Putin is leading (misleading) the country.