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Imastarwars's avatar

Who loves twilight?

Asked by Imastarwars (62points) February 25th, 2009 from iPhone

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Imastarwars's avatar

It’s so Kool

90s_kid's avatar

Not me too much.
I have heard it is very goth/emo.

madcapper's avatar

It’s so LAY-me

cheebdragon's avatar

The books were actually pretty good.

timeand_distance's avatar

The twilight series was the biggest waste of time of my entire life.

Seriously.

Stephanie Meyer is such a craptastic writer.

cheebdragon's avatar

@timeand_distance- did you read the entire series?

AstroChuck's avatar

I prefer dawn.

Dr_C's avatar

i haven’t read breaking dawn yet…. the overall theme of the books is great… the POV is somewhat infantile for my taste (although since i have been out of high school for over a decade it is a little hard to relate)... but i really like the way the story involves you… i’m a little ashamed to say it was a guilty pleasure of mine to read the first three books…. although it took all of a week to do it… haven’t seen the movie though

MrMeltedCrayon's avatar

I think they are a terrible thing for young women to read. Romanticizing an obsessive, domineering and emotionally unstable guy as the OMG PERFECT WHITE KNIGHT BOYFRIEND OMG is terrible. That aside, Meyer should be ashamed of what she’s done to vampires.

cheebdragon's avatar

Bitter much?

Imastarwars's avatar

I personally think twilight is great

adreamofautumn's avatar

It’s like crack…bad for you but addicting once you start.

Imastarwars's avatar

It was a great book I couldn’t put it diwn

Imastarwars's avatar

Also you should read if u haven’t already legend of the seeker

Imastarwars's avatar

There’s slot of good books out there I’m just surprised people would rather text or watch tv rather than read a great book

adreamofautumn's avatar

Though I do agree with @MrMeltedCrayon, as addicting as the book is…it’s misogynistic and really is not the type of thing we should be teaching young girls. It’s okay for me because i’m old enough to understand that the weakness in Bella should not be emulated, but some girls really aren’t old enough. That is a legitimate reason to worry.

MrMeltedCrayon's avatar

@cheebdragon: I suppose I am being pretty bitter. Vampires should explode in the sunlight. I just want my vampires to explode and die. Fuck. Is that too much to ask for?

Oh, you mean about the OMG WHITE KNIGHT? Yeah, I guess I’m being bitter about that too. I mean, I get it. It’s a basically a romance novel aimed at teenagers with supernatural beings. It’s not gonna be realistic at all. But lets face it, Edward Cullen is the kind of guy that would have several restraining orders with he were real.

Imastarwars's avatar

I think that young girls should know what’s going to happen and life and the challenges you face there have been girls young as 10 reading the book

adreamofautumn's avatar

@Imastarwars yes and nothing in Twilight is legitimate. At all. It teaches them nothing about what’s going to happen, or life. It’s a fun story, I won’t lie I enjoyed reading them, but they do NOT send a good message. At all.

cheebdragon's avatar

God forbid teens read anything that actually encourages them to get married before having sex.~

Imastarwars's avatar

Is everyone so old on the website

adreamofautumn's avatar

@Imastarwars i’m only in my early 20’s. But yes, mostly.

Imastarwars's avatar

I thought this was like a teen website

MrMeltedCrayon's avatar

And teach them that it’s okay to have sex with someone once they’ve passed out? That’s not rape, right? Oh no, that’s love! :D

cheebdragon's avatar

Passed out? When?

Imastarwars's avatar

Bells never passed out

MacBean's avatar

I’m totally with @timeand_distance, @MrMeltedCrayon, and @adreamofautumn. The writing is mediocre at best and the message is negative. Edward is awful.

Imastarwars's avatar

The message is wrong
But it’s just a book remember

Imastarwars's avatar

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!gosh

adreamofautumn's avatar

@Imastarwars it’s not that we forget, it’s that some young girls don’t seem to separate fact from fiction.

Imastarwars's avatar

Well
The smart ones do I mean girls who love reading anything I mean
When I was 12 I read slot of love stories
Like
Romeo and
Juilet

adreamofautumn's avatar

@Imastarwars I agree. Twilight is supposed to be a modern day “Romeo and Juliet” and let’s be honest…that doesn’t have a good message either ;).

MacBean's avatar

Romeo & Juliet isn’t a good romantic ideal, either.

And even smart girls who read Twilight can miss how negative and abusive basically all of Bella’s relationships are. My 13-year-old cousin is wild for the series. She’s the one who got me to read it by lending me her books. As I was reading, I became more and more appalled by the way this completely smart and cool kid swooned over Edward. When I finished, she was so disappointed that I didn’t like them, but we talked about it and I explained why. She said she understood and that she hadn’t seen it like that when she was reading on her own because of the way SMeyer writes like that kind of relationship is something to strive for. She’s still a fan of the books, but she doesn’t think Edward is oh-so-dreamy anymore, so that’s cool with me. I’m not against people reading/liking the books. I’m against people thinking Edward is wonderful.

Imastarwars's avatar

What age do you consider letting anyone children read twilight and
Romeo and juilet

MacBean's avatar

@Imastarwars Let them read it at any age, but discuss it with them, and make sure they know that relationships where you kill yourself for each other and disable vehicles so the person can’t hang out with other friends are NOT HEALTHY.

Imastarwars's avatar

I mean some girls jut read thebooks just to read and I lilethe books not because Edward but the action and vanmpires
It’s very awaking

MacBean's avatar

But… there’s so little else to the series, aside from all the pining. Every single one of the books is 3/4 Bella angsting over how perfect Edward is and how she’s not worthy and blah blah blah and then suddenly SMeyer realizes she hasn’t included any plot, she pumps out four or five chapters of “action” and then that’s it until the next book.

Imastarwars's avatar

U guys don’t c the point it so stupid this game is boring later losers I’m quiting for sure

tiffyandthewall's avatar

i don’t know whether to laugh or be dumbfounded at U guys don’t c the point it so stupid this game is boring later losers I’m quiting for sure <—-that. if you don’t want answers, don’t ask?

anyway, i read the first book around the time it first actually came out and i didn’t get it. i didn’t think it was horrible, i just wasn’t that interested. i don’t think meyers is a terrible writer, but she doesn’t write unlike any other average youth novel author. it was pretty generic. oh boy, exciting plot – a vampire boy and a human girl fall in love! drama ensues! i don’t know. i am actually pretty interested in vampire themed stuff, but i just didn’t think twilight was spectacular whatsoever. i think it’s a cheap thrill. guilty pleasure reading. not literary genius.

timeand_distance's avatar

@cheebdragon yes, yes I did. almost didn’t make it through the fourth one, though.

MacBean's avatar

@timeand_distance haha! Yeah… My review of Breaking Dawn (with links to reviews of the first three).

adreamofautumn's avatar

Wow this situation has escalated to ridiculous already. @Imastarwars quitting might be good for you if you aren’t prepared to hear truthful answers when you ask a bunch of strangers a random question.

cheebdragon's avatar

@time- you read 3 of her books because…....? I dont understand, If you hated them so much and felt they were such a huge waste of your time, why did you keep reading???

MacBean's avatar

@cheebdragon Probably so that fans wouldn’t be able to say, “Oh, you don’t know what you’re talking about, you didn’t even read them” and write off his/her opinion. That’s why I kept going.

adreamofautumn's avatar

Just a random note…I actually didn’t mind reading the books themselves. It’s not particularly well written, but it was worth a quick read when I needed a break from studying. I just think that one has to seriously consider the messages of the book when giving it to a child. All things considered though, they’re not so bad if you’re just looking for a fluff book to read.

TheHaight's avatar

despise the whole saga. Can’t stand how Bella is so willing to give up everything and anything for edward. Yes I know the whole story, I have a little sister. I sure as hell hope girls don’t look up to that pathetic mess that she is.

Dr_C's avatar

I think it’s great that so many people have such strong (if varied) opinions on a teen book… but i’d like to pose another question…. is the problem with this book/movie the fact that it can be construed a misogynistic? that the male lead is manipulative and/or controlling? or the fact that in real life TEEN GIRLS GO TO THE MOVIE PREMIERE AND MAKE THEMSELVES BLEED IN FRONT OF THE MALE LEAD TO GET HIS ATTENTION?????????

MacBean's avatar

That’s kind of my point, and the reason why it blows my mind when people are like, “It’s just a book!” Yes. It’s just a book. But some of the fans don’t treat it that way. They get so crazy over Edward that they freak poor RPattz out by asking him to bite them and things like that. They don’t seem to realize that it’s just a book. They apparently really want a boyfriend who will constantly be condescending and manipulative, as long as he can brood prettily enough.

Like I’ve said, and like @adreamofautumn said, it’s not exactly the books in general that I object to. I like the handful of chapters at the end of each book that aren’t just Bella and Edward being angsty and mooning over each other. My problem is the fact that Bella and Edward’s relationship is portrayed as a positive thing that people should strive for. If a few characters would just point out that there would be a restraining order against Edward if Bella wasn’t so ridiculous, so that the readers would realize how unhealthy it is, I’d have so much less of an issue. But the entire cast of characters thinks Bella and Edward are ~sooooo perfect!!!11!1!~ and that’s the message that’s being sent, and it’s wrong.

madcapper's avatar

@AstroChuck you continue to make me laugh!

flameboi's avatar

I really really like the saga, seriously!

90s_kid's avatar

@Dr_C
Fluther+Twilight=.....

Dr_C's avatar

Flylight?

timeand_distance's avatar

@MacBean eeeexactly. that and i got them for christmas (my parents misinterpreted my opinion on the first one), so I figured I might as well. Nothing better to do over christmas break.

Imastarwars's avatar

You guys r stupid

eponymoushipster's avatar

i heard in the next book, they just start raping each other. seriously. like all the dudes start raping each other.

and the main chick gets high.

cheebdragon's avatar

The only reason little girls are obssessed with Edward is because the movie put a face to the character. It’s not something they are even going think about 5–10 years from now. Teenage girls are easily distracted.
Besides, the chances of actually finding a teenage boy who wants anything more than just getting in a girls pants, are highly unlikely in this day & age.

Reading twilight isn’t going to make someone anti-feminist, anymore than reading Harry Potter is going to make someone practice “witchcraft and worship the devil”. It really is just a book.

MacBean's avatar

They were obsessed long before the movie. There was such a backlash from a big chunk of the fandom when RPattz was cast because the fans didn’t think he was right for the part.

Anyway, I haven’t seen any smart kids turning to black magic and devil worship because of HP. But I have seen smart girls swoon over Edward Cullen and not realize that watching someone through their window while they sleep is creepy and disabling vehicles to keep them from seeing other people is not cool and emotional manipulation is abuse. And it’s also not just Edward. There’s Team Jacob, who swoon just as pathetically over Edward’s equally emotionally manipulative “rival,” who also physically pushes himself on Bella. And Bella, who is supposed to be a “strong” female and a role model to the readers, has a hard time sometimes deciding which of her abusers she loves more.

So, again, it blows my mind that people can call it “just a book” when it’s sending a message like that.

cheebdragon's avatar

have you ever been a teenage girl? They freak out over whatever is popular at the moment, then they get over it after a few years. I had a friend in middle school who covered all of the walls in her bedroom with N’sync pictures, eventually she got over it and now it’s just an embarrassing part of her childhood.

eponymoushipster's avatar

tell me about it. these 16 yr old girls won’t stop chasing after me. and i’m all like “get away….” but do they? nope.

curse my rampant sexual mojo!

MacBean's avatar

I have been a teenage girl, yes. And I completely stand by everything I’ve said.

IlonaW's avatar

I didn’t mind reading the books, but I noticed in the second book that Bella has a very negative attachment to Edward. I mean hello? She kept putting herself in danger just to “hear” his voice, she was moping around like an undead person because he left her. How is that anything BUT a positive reflection of a healthy relationship? I mean, yes, I understand being broken hearted over the “love of your life” leaving you. Been there done that. But there comes a time in your life where you just need to move on. She has a very unhealthy dependency on this guy, and the teenagers just eat it up, they love this story and think that the relationship is 100% pure love, its not. She almost got herself killed just to remember him from his voice to feel like he’s there what does that teach younger viewers, the young ladies reading/watching this story think that its the undying love of Bella who wants to see Edward, and they think its okay, they think its true love. Its unhealthy dependency. Bella is supposed to be a tough egg but is so easily cracked, its sad, just sad.

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