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Who was Cain's wife and who were HER parents?

Asked by Kayak8 (16433points) June 1st, 2009

Adam and Eve begat Cain and Abel. Cain killed Abel, leaving himself as their only child. If one is to follow the Biblical account of Adam and Eve as the only humans God placed on the planet, where did Cain’s wife come from and was she his sister? This has always puzzled me.

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MrItty's avatar

Yes. If you accept the idea that the human race started out as nothing but two human beings, than the entire history is nothing but a WHOLE bunch of incest.

DarkScribe's avatar

Sister, mother whoever she was she obviously had the requisite girl bits. There is a lot of incest in the Bible. The objections to it came later than genesis. Maybe it was a passing spaceship with a horny alien?

ragingloli's avatar

Some say, that God created other humans than Adam and Eva, outside of Eden. Of course this raises the question why they to were afflicted with this “original sin”, and if they were not, why god let Adam, Eva and their brood contaminate the sin free population with sin.

dynamicduo's avatar

Genetically speaking, the creation story of Adam and Eve cannot be true, because two people do not have enough genetic diversity to create a world of genetically diverse people, within a few generations they would likely not be producing live healthy humans at all and all of humanity would not exist.

I’m actually curious – what does the bible say about black people? Did god not make them as well? If not, where did they come from?

DarkScribe's avatar

@ragingloli Some say that the earth is flat. Our “owner’s manual” for a religious belief is the Bible (for Christians) and it makes no mention of anything like that.

DarkScribe's avatar

@dynamicduo what does the bible say about black people? Did god not make them as well?

He made at least one – Jesus was black.

See this link

ragingloli's avatar

@DarkScribe That is what christians told me. Some of them interpret the bible that way. Don’t blame me for their follies.

DarkScribe's avatar

@ragingloli That is what christians told me. Some of them interpret the bible that way. Don’t blame me for their follies.

Some Christians say that only 144000 people can fit into heaven. Others say that Mary appears in baked goods. Others say that Benny Hinn isn’t a crook.

dynamicduo's avatar

@DarkScribe I think you know that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about Africans.

DarkScribe's avatar

@dynamicduo

Where do you think the “Biblical” lands are? The Holy Land is in North Africa.

MrItty's avatar

@dynamicduo the site I just linked has an answer to that minor problem of genetic deformities. It’s too good for me to paraphrase. I have to share this word for word…. :-)

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However, this fact of present-day life did not apply to Adam and Eve. When the first two people were created, they were perfect. Everything God made was “very good” (Genesis 1:31). That means their genes were perfect—no mistakes. But when sin entered the world because of Adam (Genesis 3:6), God cursed the world so that the perfect creation then began to degenerate, that is, suffer death and decay (Romans 8:22). Over a long period of time, this degeneration would have resulted in all sorts of mistakes occurring in the genetic material of living things.
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ragingloli's avatar

@DarkScribe
Some christians interpret Gensis 1. to describe a creation of humans separate from Adam and Eva, as the Genesis 2. story is very different from 1.
Let me say again that I do not believe any of that, but there is biblical content that can be and is interpreted in that way by some.

DarkScribe's avatar

@ragingloli

I am a Christian in that I follow Christ’s teachings, and I say that God is a crock and the Bible the most evil book ever published if you use the amount of harm done because of it’s teaching and widely varying interpretations as a basis for assessment.

dynamicduo's avatar

@MrItty – That’s classic. Wonderful! Hahaha. They’ll come up with whatever words or thoughts seem to make sense, eh?

spresto's avatar

The bible didn’t say God didn’t creat more people after adam and eve they were just the first. Also, like most of you pricks say why try to make a scientific debate over some story that are more than likely not true. If you don’t believe them ignore them. Fuck what problems they have caused. Loser on fluther wont make them or me go away. God bless all of you.

MacBean's avatar

The bible didn’t say God didn’t creat more people after adam and eve they were just the first.

So now we have to interpret what the Bible doesn’t say, along with what it does? Well, that’s frickin’ annoying.

DarkScribe's avatar

@spresto The bible didn’t say God didn’t creat more people after adam and eve they were just the first.

The Bible didn’t specifically say that George Bush was male so I guess that he must really be a cross-dressing transvestite woman. Come to think of it, the Bible doesn’t say that Ann Coulter is a woman. It might be right about that.

oratio's avatar

@spresto adam and eve they were just the first
Well, even that is open to interpretation. Lilith was Adams first wife.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

How do you just randomly wonder that? :P
Who knows – the whole story is allegorical
You can’t seek logic in it

AstroChuck's avatar

It may have been my ex-wife. She’s fucked everyone else so why not Cain?

oratio's avatar

@AstroChuck I agree, it’s doubtful that she would fuck Cain. I don’t think she would be abel to.

cyn's avatar

You see, the bible was written in a metaphorically way. What would you say about the apes being Adam and Eve and after generation, they began to evolve into humans(not them: their child’s child’s child’s child’s etc. etc., to become what we are today)? Everything else is just about culture/religion: what or what not you want to believe! Yes, the girl was her sister, but in order to reproduce she was the only choice God had given him! Now, how they looked? I do not know!

fireside's avatar

We’re actually going to be talking about this later tonight. Here’s a reading I pulled out for the discussion. It’s a bit long, but worth the read:

In the Bible it is written that God put Adam in the garden of Eden, to cultivate and take care of it, and said to Him: “Eat of every tree of the garden except the tree of good and evil, for if You eat of that, You will die.” Then it is said that God caused Adam to sleep, and He took one of His ribs and created woman in order that she might be His companion. After that it is said the serpent induced the woman to eat of the tree, saying: “God has forbidden you to eat of the tree in order that your eyes may not be opened, and that you may not know good from evil.” Then Eve ate from the tree and gave unto Adam, Who also ate; their eyes were opened, they found themselves naked, and they hid their bodies with leaves. In consequence of this act they received the reproaches of God. God said to Adam: “Hast Thou eaten of the forbidden tree?” Adam answered: “Eve tempted Me, and I did eat.” God then reproved Eve; Eve said: “The serpent tempted me, and I did eat.” For this the serpent was cursed, and enmity was put between the serpent and Eve, and between their descendants. And God said: “The man is become like unto Us, knowing good and evil, and perhaps He will eat of the tree of life and live forever.” So God guarded the tree of life.

If we take this story in its apparent meaning, according to the interpretation of the masses, it is indeed extraordinary. The intelligence cannot accept it, affirm it, or imagine it; for such arrangements, such details, such speeches and reproaches are far from being those of an intelligent man, how much less of the Divinity—that Divinity Who has organized this infinite universe in the most perfect form, and its innumerable inhabitants with absolute system, strength and perfection.

We must reflect a little: if the literal meaning of this story were attributed to a wise man, certainly all would logically deny that this arrangement, this invention, could have emanated from an intelligent being. Therefore, this story of Adam and Eve who ate from the tree, and their expulsion from Paradise, must be thought of simply as a symbol. It contains divine mysteries and universal meanings, and it is capable of marvelous explanations. Only those who are initiated into mysteries, and those who are near the Court of the All-Powerful, are aware of these secrets. Hence these verses of the Bible have numerous meanings.

We will explain one of them, and we will say: Adam signifies the heavenly spirit of Adam, and Eve His human soul. For in some passages in the Holy Books where women are mentioned, they represent the soul of man. The tree of good and evil signifies the human world; for the spiritual and divine world is purely good and absolutely luminous, but in the human world light and darkness, good and evil, exist as opposite conditions.

The meaning of the serpent is attachment to the human world. This attachment of the spirit to the human world led the soul and spirit of Adam from the world of freedom to the world of bondage and caused Him to turn from the Kingdom of Unity to the human world. When the soul and spirit of Adam entered the human world, He came out from the paradise of freedom and fell into the world of bondage. From the height of purity and absolute goodness, He entered into the world of good and evil.

The tree of life is the highest degree of the world of existence: the position of the Word of God, and the supreme Manifestation. Therefore, that position has been preserved; and, at the appearance of the most noble supreme Manifestation, it became apparent and clear. For the position of Adam, with regard to the appearance and manifestation of the divine perfections, was in the embryonic condition; the position of Christ was the condition of maturity and the age of reason; and the rising of the Greatest Luminary was the condition of the perfection of the essence and of the qualities. This is why in the supreme Paradise the tree of life is the expression for the center of absolutely pure sanctity—that is to say, of the divine supreme Manifestation. From the days of Adam until the days of Christ, They spoke little of eternal life and the heavenly universal perfections. This tree of life was the position of the Reality of Christ; through His manifestation it was planted and adorned with everlasting fruits.

Now consider how far this meaning conforms to the reality. For the spirit and the soul of Adam, when they were attached to the human world, passed from the world of freedom into the world of bondage, and His descendants continued in bondage. This attachment of the soul and spirit to the human world, which is sin, was inherited by the descendants of Adam, and is the serpent which is always in the midst of, and at enmity with, the spirits and the descendants of Adam. That enmity continues and endures. For attachment to the world has become the cause of the bondage of spirits, and this bondage is identical with sin, which has been transmitted from Adam to His posterity. It is because of this attachment that men have been deprived of essential spirituality and exalted position.

When the sanctified breezes of Christ and the holy light of the Greatest Luminary were spread abroad, the human realities—that is to say, those who turned toward the Word of God and received the profusion of His bounties—were saved from this attachment and sin, obtained everlasting life, were delivered from the chains of bondage, and attained to the world of liberty. They were freed from the vices of the human world, and were blessed by the virtues of the Kingdom. This is the meaning of the words of Christ, “I gave My blood for the life of the world”—that is to say, I have chosen all these troubles, these sufferings, calamities, and even the greatest martyrdom, to attain this object, the remission of sins (that is, the detachment of spirits from the human world, and their attraction to the divine world) in order that souls may arise who will be the very essence of the guidance of mankind, and the manifestations of the perfections of the Supreme Kingdom.

Observe that if, according to the suppositions of the People of the Book, the meaning were taken in its exoteric sense, it would be absolute injustice and complete predestination. If Adam sinned by going near the forbidden tree, what was the sin of the glorious Abraham, and what was the error of Moses the Interlocutor? What was the crime of Noah the Prophet? What was the transgression of Joseph the Truthful? What was the iniquity of the Prophets of God, and what was the trespass of John the Chaste? Would the justice of God have allowed these enlightened Manifestations, on account of the sin of Adam, to find torment in hell until Christ came and by the sacrifice of Himself saved them from excruciating tortures? Such an idea is beyond every law and rule and cannot be accepted by any intelligent person.

No; it means what has already been said: Adam is the spirit of Adam, and Eve is His soul; the tree is the human world, and the serpent is that attachment to this world which constitutes sin, and which has infected the descendants of Adam. Christ by His holy breezes saved men from this attachment and freed them from this sin. The sin in Adam is relative to His position. Although from this attachment there proceed results, nevertheless, attachment to the earthly world, in relation to attachment to the spiritual world, is considered as a sin. The good deeds of the righteous are the sins of the Near Ones. This is established. So bodily power is not only defective in relation to spiritual power; it is weakness in comparison. In the same way, physical life, in comparison with eternal life in the Kingdom, is considered as death. So Christ called the physical life death, and said: “Let the dead bury their dead.” Though those souls possessed physical life, yet in His eyes that life was death.

This is one of the meanings of the biblical story of Adam. Reflect until you discover the others.
(Abdu’l-Baha, Some Answered Questions, p. 122)

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