Is it against the law to hire a hitman to kill oneself?

Pretty pointless and waste of cash , pop a cap in your own ass instead .
There have been reports of people hiring killers to kill there partners .

Since both suicide and homicide are illegal, I doubt there could be a loophole.

Assisted suicide is illegal in most states. And in the states that it isn’t, it would still be murder because the hitman is actually performing your death, he isn’t just simply helping you tie a noose.

Suicide in itself is against the law, so it would not be legal.

Yes it is. Thats a contract murder.

If you are going to wind up dead why do you care? But I agree with the group, it would be against the law.

@JLeslie has the most logical answer. Are you afraid of them arresting your corpse?

What if the hitman accidentally kills your twin?

@JLeslie – maybe you really want to die but are too chickenshit to go through with it, and know that you could never off yourself. You would however be able to hire someone to take you out. As it happens, you have a friend who you think would be really good at this, who could really use some money anyway. Maybe you have no other family to leave your stuff to, and you’d be willing to give your friend everything if they just ended your miserable life. But, you want the friend to profit from this, and not end up in jail. So, you wonder, hey, if I give him permission to kill me, like maybe in writing, wouldn’t that be legal? That would be the hypothetical…why the question was asked, I have no idea.

@MrItty – why then is suicide illegal…I suppose it’s a deterrent for people who hadn’t really thought it through, or those who maybe worry that they’ll go through with the plan but fail, then not only are they alive, but they’re in jail.

@dalepetrie LMFAO! I thought the person who asked the question was worrying about himself. The guy doing the killing is for sure doing something illegal unless you are in Oregon or parts of Europe and it is euthanasia. Since they used the term hitman, I doubted that we were talking about something like that.

@dalepetrie Apparently, suicide isn’t actually illegal in the States anymore.

@phoenyx: What if the hitman accidentally kills your twin?

and then, out of remorse, you decide to make something useful of yourself, meanwhile the hitman, full of remorse, has decided to blackmail you, and because you don’t think that you can convince him otherwise you decide to assassinate him. but wait, the twin never died after all! now, you start gunning for the twin so that no one suspects you.

a three-way duel between the two twins and the original hitman takes place in earnest.

it can all get very complicated.

You’re dead. Who cares? The only person that needs to worry is the hitman.

There seems to be no legally acceptable arena for consensual homicide; society tends not to favor allowing its members to kill themselves or each other. There are a few exceptions in certain cases where extreme pain is involved. Even so, the act itself ultimately needs to be performed by the person opting for premature death. The most one can legally hope for seems to be assistance. I doubt much information can be found on this issue since those who desire this route of exit are most probably not concerned with the legality issues surrounding the matter. One might be more concerned with the repercussions faced in the after life, if he or she believes in such things.

“There seems to be no legally acceptable arena for consensual homicide”

That would be QUICK consensual homicide.

A pack of smokes, a bottle of booze. Given enough time. You will be dead.

@Harp So weird. When I attempted suicide, and obviously failed, I was taken away by the police at the hospital…since I had broken the law. I was young though, only 14 Maybe it’s different in every area.

Go read lawrence block’s hitman ;)

@casheroo The laws vary by state, but as the article states, there is still a “common law” interpretation that many police agencies use.

@ChazMaz ‘consensual’ implies two or more people. Perhaps you mean hiring someone to kill you slowly with cigarettes and alcohol, like some kind of personal bartender-assassin.

@casheroo: If suicide is against the law, then why aren’t those who attempt suicide (but do not succeed) prosecuted? People are prosecuted for attempted homicide and attempted robbery, for instance.

@girlofscience I guess they are considered mentally unstable.

@girlofscience I did have to go before a judge. But, I waived it and admitted myself. But, still had to be taken by ambulance to a judge so they would determine if they would involuntarily commit me, or if I would commit myself. This happened after the police took me from the hospital, after my care for an overdose, and after they put me on a mandatory hold for I think it was 48 hours, it might have been 72 though. And since I was a minor, I could not check myself out, but could have fought the judge. That could have led to longer involuntary commitment though.

The reason why they have laws against suicide is so that they can legally place holds on people who make attempts and keep them for treatment.

It actually makes a lot of sense.

What are they going to do, lock up your corpse?

Its not against the law if no one ever finds out…

@FireMadeFlesh As I said, “The reason why they have laws against suicide is so that they can legally place holds on people who make attempts and keep them for treatment.

@avvooooooo Not so. There are only six states where suicide is still illegal. They don’t need to invoke anti-suicide laws to hold a person for observation. They can hold anyone for 72 hours simply on suspicion that the person is a danger to himself or others.

Suicide was originally criminalized in order to enact the Christian sense of sin into law, and people did go to prison for attempted self-murder. It had nothing to do with helping anybody.

Prisons take a dim view of prisoners who attempt suicide. They will put the person on close watch, but when appears out of immediate danger, they will give him a disciplinary hearing which often entails a more restrictive (i.e., punitive) level of custody, often solitary confinement, and if already in solitary, addition time to serve. Prison staff view suicide attempts as manipulative attempts to gain sympathy, or as hostile attempts to make the prison administration look bad. In fact, suicides in Guantanamo were viewed as acts of asymmetrical warfare.

@avvooooooo I didn’t read down that far.

Isn’t that a little too controlling though? I mean we make suicide illegal to lock up and treat people who fail in their attempts, but by what measure do we deem them insane and in need of treatment?

@Zuma They can hold them for 72 hours. Its easier to commit someone if there’s a law against what they did. Suicide laws that are still on the books are used to help people, no matter their original intent. There’s a difference between prisoners already incarcerated who try and commit suicide (there isn’t, but that’s the perception) and those who do it in other places. The reason that people take a dim view of suicide attempts in prisoners is that they often are trying to manipulate the system. There are those who aren’t and those who are, but there are definitely those who are.

@FireMadeFlesh If someone is committing suicide, I think we can assume that there’s something wrong that needs a closer look. People who aren’t in need of help generally don’t try and off themselves.

It’s the chicken’s way out. I say do it yourself.

It’s constitutes entering into an illegal contract, regardless of the victim.

@avvooooooo Suicide can only be considered “manipulation” when you do not recognize the prisoner as having the right to defend himself against improper, excessive or debilitating treatment. First of all, you or I would not be in a position where we were being subject to punishment we could not endure. But prisoners are frequently subject to excessive, arbitrary, and sadistic punishment, up to and including torture and they are often required to “just take it” without protest even when it is illegitimate.

Second, if you or I were being mistreated, we always have a number of options open to us. We can walk away, we can call for help, we can resist and protest; and, if necessary, fight to protect ourselves. We also have the option of making the punishment end by saying “okay, I give up.” But, prisoners don’t necessarily have these options.

Discipline is often applied for petty and subjective reasons; without any oversight or “due process”; and without any consideration as to the limits of human endurance. Discipline has a way of getting piled on top of discipline, without any consideration as to its damaging effects on the prisoner. As a consequence, prisoners often get locked into a downward spiral in their punishment destroys their emotional stability, their rationality, and their capacity to avoid punishment through self-control.

For example, a mentally ill prisoner misbehaves in some way. He is given two months in solitary confinement (14 days is considered the limit of human endurance under the laws of war). Not surprisingly, he deteriorates further. He goes psychotic and does not return his food tray in the slot in a manner his captor deems “compliant,” so the situation escalates until six guards in riot gear tear gas him, taser him, and beat him up. After a while, he is so psychotic he starts smearing feces on himself and won’t stop banging his head against his door, so they beat him up again and add more time in solitary to his punishment.

They tell him that if he can remain incident free for six months, they will let him out. But, considering that his self-control is so shot that he can barely get through a day or two without some problem, this is essentially telling him that his future is one of inescapable suffering. Thus, faced with such a hopeless future, he becomes depressed and attempts suicide and is punished with another 6 months and an even more restrictive, more punitive level of control for attempting to “manipulate staff.” This, of course, conveys the very clear message that the only way out is a successful suicide attempt—which becomes a roundabout way to institute capital punishment in states which prohibit it. Just make things so unbearable that the prisoners kill themselves.

The official rules say that prisoners are supposed to be treated with dignity and respect(just as they are supposed to treat the officers with respect). Unfortunately, prisoners have absolutely no legitimate and aboveboard means of enforcing their end of the deal; so any protest in the form of a suicide attempt is considered “manipulative.” But, really, it is the prisoners who are being manipulated into “misbehaving” in order to set them on a downwardspiral of unfair discipline and debilitating punishment.

It depends on a Countrys Laws-i Switzerland,Germany,Estonia it is absolutely legal if you can find someone willing to help you die.The most relaxed laws are in Estonia-suicide or assisted suicide -asking someone to help you die is absolutely legal-if you request it.The difficulty is in finding a person willing to help you.I have thought of this myself even thought of offering my kidney for free to a compassionate person willing to help me.The reason being I wanted the method to be absolutely certain.It may seem not to make sense to some people but to me it seems logical enough-if you could find such a person-but where?

You can… Just remember if he fails, And I wouldn’t put too much credability on a human being hitman that aids the suicidal ...and you have to spend the rest of your life with a debilitating spinal injury… You get what you paid for, don’t complain because now, you won’t even be able to off yourself.

Suicide is stupid, it’s far more fun to live… and piss off as many people as you possibly can for living regardless

How hard is it to get rid of my kidney(s)?It seems to me extremely difficult:nobody wants them and there is nothing wrong with them.I know perhaps it would take a person with very Liberal Views to understand , but to me it is my way of doing at least a tiny bit of good in this World.I am not a great person, I have made many mistakes in my Life, but i could do this legally in either Switzerland or Estonia, Estonia being the most Liberal.I am sure there must be at least 1 person in this World who is in need of a kidney donor and is understanding and compassionate enough to say, yes, I agree with your feelings and we can help each other.I am a whole body donor so the remaining bits I hope can help as many people as possible. I know in China people travel there to buy kidneys from condemned prisoners who may not be in the best of shape.I don’t want any financial compensation , just my final last wish to be granted on this blessed Earth.