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What should Fluther 3.0 be like, but not in the sense you think I'm talking about?

Asked by Fred931 (9434points) May 21st, 2010

Ever since the recent major changes to the guidelines and the flow of the site, there’s been a lot of negative remarks about the new system. Well, I can hardly give a damn about this because I haven’t been affected at all. I’m not interested in tweaking the guidelines or mechanics of the Q&A portion of the site; I want to know what the next redesign will make Fluther look like. So brace yourself… * gasps for air *

I had a sudden outburst of Fred931-in-the-chatroom-ness You have to be a regular chat-roomer to know what I mean by that And made a Fluther based very much on Google Labs’ Image Swirl; A sort of all-intermeshed linkage of questions, each with their own “bubble.” In fact, they could literally be bubbles, considering this is Fluther.com. All of the bubbles “blossom” or split from each other as a replacement for the lines in Swirl. All of the links down at the bottom could be in littler bubbles still at the bottom, and user control panel and community feed “tabs” hidden on each side of the screen and pulled out by clicking on discreet labels attached to each. The home page would start the user out in either a login screen, first-time user screen, or welcome-back screen depending on whether or not the user has ever been on Fluther based on an internet cookie. A number (based on the variety of question categories, which, currently, is 4) of primary bubbles extend from the home bubble and display a list very similar to the ones on the homepage right now. When you select one, a secondary bubble appears and gives you the question and all responses, which could also be similar to the current question pages or stray very far from the current template. When you go back to the primary (category) bubble after answering a particular question, the bubble contracts, the text reduces itself to about 10 words plus ellipsis if necessary, and remains floating around the primary bubble to indicate that you are still following that question. Also, from the main page and primary pages, when you roll over secondary (question) bubbles, a pop-up balloon gives you the entire question, who wrote it, and how many new posts there were since you last checked the question. To stop following a question without going all the way to it, a small starburst button shows up inside the bubble, and clicking this “pops” the bubble. Those last few sentences could almost completely eliminate the need for an Activity page and button, including the fact that someone will finally get it into their thick skulls that there is a need for a Stop Following All button (Another starburst with a confirmation message in the control panel.) For user profiles, the entire screen shifts down and shows a single bubble when a profile is selected. If one views another profile by accessing it through another profile, the new profile blossoms from the previous one and the previous one is not saved, considering there is no need for that. While viewing user profiles, a tab button at the top of the screen will read “Back to Questions,” and clicking that will shift the screen back up and into the main area.

So, even if you did think to yourself, “Too long did not read,” what do you think can be done aesthetically to Fluther?

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MissA's avatar

I think that, because you have such an in depth interest in this matter, that you should team up with the head flutherists and make their world a better place.

gailcalled's avatar

@Fred931: Your assignment, should you choose to accept it, is to condense that text to four clear sentences.

Fred931's avatar

@gailcalled Mission Impossible 4 offer declined.

anartist's avatar

I think fluther is kind of cute and easy to work with now.
Why don’t you make a wireframe and post it so we can see what you are talking about.
Your changes sound very complicated and confusing to me.

augustlan's avatar

Sounds creative and interesting, but I’m afraid it might be more confusing. Aside from cleaning up some quirks of the site (like getting that stop following all button you mentioned), I pretty much love it the way it is.

Buttonstc's avatar

Well I like the bubble-popping idea. There’s a free game app on iPhone by that title :)

Unfortunately the Google Image Swirl thing picture won’t display on iPhone so I can’t really visualize how it would look.

But it def. sounds intriguing.

stranger_in_a_strange_land's avatar

Great, if you want to drive off 90% of the users over 45 years old. This is a Q&A site, not a video game. The “new rules” are really just a tweak on the old ones, my only problem was not initially understanding how they would be applied. Please, keep things simple for us Bronze Age boomers.

Fred931's avatar

@augustlan @stranger_in_a_strange_land Then let’s add a tutorial.
@anartist Dunno what a wireframe is and I’m not too good with art unless I spend a lifetime on each work, assuming a wireframe is some sort of picture.

anartist's avatar

@Fred931 you had so much to say about web design that I thought you would know.
from wikipedia:
A website wireframe is a basic visual guide used in interface design to suggest the structure of a website and relationships between its pages.

gailcalled's avatar

@Fred931: I agree with @stranger in a strange land. Unimaginable to me to bother with a tutorial here, no matter who wrote (and edited) it.

Fred931's avatar

@gailcalled Not like a written tutorial, but an interactive one that actually takes new users through the Q&A process and shows them how to get around and post things by telling them to choose a category and question, and then answering the question. Something like that.

stranger_in_a_strange_land's avatar

@Fred931 Still too complex. If it’s not simple and intuitive at first glance, the system will drive away existing users and discourage new users.

anartist's avatar

@Fred931 what don’t you like about fluther’s design now?

BTW I don’t like Google’s Image Swirl at all—gimmicky to no point

Fred931's avatar

@stranger_in_a_strange_land if all the information goes in and out of the same place, then it shouldn’t be a bother to make a new version run parallel to the old one. I’ll have the link labeled “Go to Stranger’s version”.
@anartist I like the current design just fine, but wanted to know what a completely revised version would look like.

ben's avatar

@Fred931 Thanks for sharing the neat ideas. Maybe once we open up our API, you can build this yourself. :)

Fred931's avatar

@ben Too bad I have no real experience with programming. The only thing I’ve made with code is a quick BASIC text app that requires a password. I was proud of it, but was annoyed because something about it was broken and I had to alt-F4 the program every time I ran it after it terminated.

@anartist In Swirl, when you select a photo, it searches the web for other photos with similar tags and image qualities and presents those in the new “bubble.” For example, if you were to do an image search for something unspecific, such as “car,” then there would be too many photos to search through to select from. In Swirl, if you search with the same vague criteria, it gives you a set of pictures to choose from that best suit your needs, i.e. a very smoothly crafted car rather than just any old one. I don’t think a related-question system would work well with this already-complex system, though I can visualize its integration.

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