Don't you hate it when a thread you've gotten lurve from is closed for editing?

Nah, consider that a freebie and don’t look back.

I hate it more when I’ve just posted a brilliant answer and the question gets pulled before anyone can read it.

it may come back or it may not. I just move on.

I’m with you. I hate it, too.

I feel neutral. It’s hard to summon up much passion over this issue.

Milo here: I, on the other hand, get very angry. What presumption. I have several law suits pending. My attorney is a great white shark.

All the brilliance lost due to that.

It’s annoying. A lot of things here are annoying. If you let it get to you, it’s even more annoying. Try not to do that to yourself. This place is an exercise in mindfulness. You must maintain stability in the midst of incomprehensible chaos. It’s very instructive—full of life lessons.

Go thou and prosper!

loll…brillance?

Brilliance!

@ChazMaz yeah, that really bothers me!

It happens way too often, sometimes for the flimsiest of reasons.

Mm. No, not really.
Shit happens.

@chels lmao! same with me, what the heck!

I’we been using this site for 2 days and more than half of my questions was taken to editing, and they were not out of line. which brings me to this; fluther SHOULD be renamed fluffer, because it freakin sucks…

@marchen I recommend that you read the guidelines.
Also I will be glad to review your questions sent to edit with you via PM so you will understand why they were sent back. PM me if you are intersted.

sure sounds good! what’s PM?

Private message. Go to “Dog’s” profile and send her a Comment.

Hate it. That happens to me a lot or used to happen, see, spanish is my first language so I am still learning to speak, write, read and understand English, so whenever i asked a question, EVERY TIME, SEVERAL TIMES per question I had to edit it so I felt very embarrased to ever ask questions again here, now I just answer them, but Fluther has helped me a lot in the language learning process and still I am very thankful to the mods for taking the time to help me edit my questions, they were very patient :D I <3 Fluther

Ok. I just have to ask because it boggles the mind.

Yesterday there was a Q posted which managed to accumulate over 50 responses before it was yanked, many of them advising her to listen to her Father.

It simply asked: “I’m 16, my boyfriend is 21; Is it illegal for us to date?”

So I go to check up on answers I hadn’t read yet and get the lovely notification that it will be back online when it has been made appropriate for Fluther.

I’m quite familiar with the Fluther guidelines, so what on earth was so inappropriate about that Q? Obviously a whole lot of people understood it sufficiently to respond so why is it now relegated to the ether.

Did you ever stop to think that many of the answers in there might be enormously helpful to many other young girls in a similar situation who might happen to read it before yanking it?

What on earth was so horrendously inappropriate to justify that?

She even had the presence of mind to use a semi colon, for crying out loud. Definitely a cut above the average 16 yr. old.

Inappropriate?

I really don’t get it.

If I were her, doubtless I’d be coming back to Fluther anytime soon.

How fickle can you possibly be. What on earth was the matter with this Q ?

@Buttonstc I looked into the 16/21 question. It had gone quite off-topic, so we asked the OP what she wanted us to do, move to Social or remove the off-topic answers. She never responded, but continued to post off-topic and in the thread. In addition, many of her responses did not meet our writing standards (a lot of txtspk, etc.). There is always a reason for removal. I really, really wish people would trust us on that.

So why not remove the RESPONSES which weren’t up to snuff or off topic stuff rather than the ENTIRE question?

And since you removed the question in it’s entirety, how am I or anyone else supposed to know this?

I purposely put off reading the majority of answers for later.

I had no reason to know there would never be a later.

I had only seen about the first 10 or so answers and they made a lot of sense. It’s not a Q I’ve seen very much on Fluther so I think it had value for younger readers coming across it either now or in the future.

Why not just chop out all the unhelpful off topic stuff ? That has certainly happened many many times on countless threads, witnessed by HUGE blocks of redacted stuff on Qs too numerous to count.

This wasn’t a frivolous Q and certainly met the guidelines.

So, now we face the prospect of entire Qs being removed if some dimwit runs it off the rails?

Are any of you really aware of what a dampening effect removing entire Qs has on many peoples desire to participate in the future. Evidently the guidelines are just too quixotic for ANYONE to figure out.

I really honestly don’t understand the constant inconsistency. One day only the unhelpful off topic RESPONSES are removed. Next time around it’s the ENTIRE question.

If you’re going to reply that it was in the OP’s hands please save your time.

That is a total copout. The end result is that it’s gone.

Well, it was in the OP’s hands. We pushed it back to editing, and she tried to put it back in the General Section, without ever responding to our messages. I’m sorry you’re upset about it, but that’s just the way it goes sometimes.

What was it about her QUESTION which required editing?

I don’t understand.

The presence of a semi colon properly placed impresses the heck out of me. Perhaps that’s what’s blinding me :)

It wasn’t about the initial question but her responses in her own question. If she had let us know what she wanted us to do about them, we would have.

Then logically speaking, why not remove her responses or send them back to her (or if you can’t send back the response only, tell her why the RESPONSE was removed and have her rewrite THAT.

Why take the ENTIRE question out of circulation.

If she doesn’t return any corrected responses, at least it doesn’t KILL the entire question?

Isn’t that overkill? Do you guys not have any idea of why killing an entire question has such a chilling effect ?

Do you honestly not get that?

At what point do dimwit responses kill an entire question.

People then feel, why bother? The last time a Q with numerous responses got the axe it prompted a similar response. Do you guys honestly not see the difference between modding individual responses and killing off an entire Q ?

Just because she was coincidentally also the poster of the Q why were her responses modded differently?

That isn’t logical in the slightest. If anyone else failed to correct their response to something appropriate, it wouldn’t give them the opportunity to kill of the entire Q merely by a lack of response.

I feel like this is in the twilight zone or something.

@Buttonstc You’d seriously rather see a thread with two thirds of the responses moderated (some of them are just that bad) than have the owner of the question use one click to move it to the appropriate section?

Many of the threads that go off track have some very interesting discussions that we’d love to have stay – that’s why we ask the OP’s permission to move them.

The only “chilling effect” is when users don’t respond, which would seem to indicate to me that they may not even be paying any attention to the thread, or to Fluther.

Actually, I’d rather see the question just moved. It’s really weird how I got more lurve from that.

But what about all the other people who have contributed and ARE paying attention? Apparently you guys are under the impression that it shouldn’t matter to them The fact that it discourages future participation doesn’t seem to matter either.

That was my point. The question followed the guidelines. And yet it was removed because of one lazy dimwit’s RESPONSES. (which could have bern removed or edited without killing the entire question.). That’s like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The question and many of the initial responses clearly had value. Why not let those remain?

As to your other Q. I have seen plenty of Qs with HUGE chunks of inappropriate responses removed. But the primary gist of the thread goes on. That happens all the time, especially in General.

Why does one dimwit responder get the power to kill am entire Q ?

Where is there anything about that in the guidelines.

If this had been a frivolous type of Q I wouldn’t be bothering with this at all. But it clearly wasn’t.

There was a similar incident several months back where a Q in which NUMEROUS long time responsible Fluther members had invested significant time and energy.

But their concerns were superseded by a few dimwits and the entire Q was killed. Many many people protested that quite vociferously if you recall.

And you don’t expect people to be discouraged about further participation?

Even tho I didn’t participate in that particular Q, that among other similar yankings for the flimsiest of reasons had me taking an extended hiatus until you guys got your act together with some kind of consistent guidelines and practices.

And for the longest time I just absolutely avoided any new Qs until they had been around long enough not to disappear for a frivolous reason like the OP not possessing the mind reading ability to know if the mods would want it moved merely because THEY disagreed in which area it was asked.

I also avoided any and all Qs by new users cuz Lord only knows who would yank it for what.

I just got tired of not having an answer for my own internal question to myself “Why bother?” and I certainly wasn’t the only one.

Either the guidelines need further clarification or a warning posted.

Respond to this at your own risk. Realize that this entire Question may be removed at any time for any reason regardless of what you think the guidelines do or do not say.

At least that would be honest and straightforward.

Because that is precisely what is happening.
And it’s increasingly frustrating.

Trust them, @Buttonstc. Everything they do is for a reason.

I s like in football, is a lot of fun to play that game but there are a lot of rules, and if somebody does not follow them then is not fair for the rest of us players, why are you so upset? is just a question, besides if she (the person who wrote that question) didn’t care why do you?

Not really. If I feel that people seem to appreciate my post then I will probably hate if they mod it. OK,let just say that some people love that their high-lurved post visible for other people. I don’t know if it’s really for the quality of the post or it’s just team-mate coalition,or maybe mutualism respect but I rarely get high lurve so I don’t really care if a question (the one I’m not interested in) get modded.

@Doctor D

My response was to what @ Syz asked me but let me again clarify something.

A POST (or a RESPONSE) is entirely different from an
ENTIRE QUESTION.

Why is that so difficult to comprehend?

The OP has put lurve as part of the Q but that’s not relevant for me at all.

The fact that this case and the previous one I referred to involved an over reaction (overkill) is my point. I didn’t even participate in the previous one and found it offensive and discouraging.

They keep referring to the Guidelines but don’t follow those consistently themselves. At least in football everyone has to follow the rules and the rules stay the same. Around here the boundaries keep shifting. If that’s the case, then state so upfront. If things come and go on a whim, then have some truth in advertising and say so.

I am just so tired of all this. I think I need a break.

Just for curiosity sake, for those who find it surprising that people care about a Q even if they haven’t participated, why bother building the FOLLOW feature into the automatic workings of Fluther?

I’ve followed many Qs for which I didn’t post a response simply because i’m interested in reading how other people respond. And that’s why I was annoyed this time around. I waited to read all the responses from people till I had a little extra time. I hardly expected them to disappear altogether. The QUESTION was within the guidelines.

Many people have asked about why they can’t remove their own question if they want to. The only way to do that is by a mod and only VERY RARELY.

But apparently this power is given to any ordinary someone who no longer gives a damn as long as they post enough RESPONSES which don’t meet guidelines. Then they are handed the power to disappear the entire question. This is a power NORMALLY reserved ONLY for mods and requests rarely granted. Does this make any sense at all?

If a person requests to have their question removed, chances are more likely it will remain unless they can come up with a compelling reason.

But if they act like a dimwit, this awesome power is handed over to them gratis. By simple non response, POOF their question magically vanishes.

And nobody sees this as Ass Backwards ? Totally illogical.

And everybody who was following that Q apparently isn’t supposed to care about it any more (without having their motives questioned).

If we aren’t supposed to care, why bother building in the FOLLOW capability.

I really don’t get the inconsistency at all.

But at least those people in the future who want to get one of their questions removed now have a way to do it. You don’t need to appeal to the mods at all. Why bother with that tedious process and risk being turned down.

Just post enough dimwit responses and include lots of txtspk. When they send it back to you for editing, just don’t reply. POOF that annoying question magically disappears. Problem solved. As long as you act like enough of a dimwit, you too can get mod powers and torpedo your own question. Don’t worry a bit about others foolish enough to be following it. Their opinions don’t really count.

Perhaps I should write a manual.

But seriously, why not just eliminate the follow feature. Since you don’t expect people to care about getting interested in questions, just eliminate the problem at its root. At least that makes more sense than the current mess of contradictions.

this might get removed by the mods but: i am so bored of what you are saying sorry if I don’t care :(

So don’t read it. No one is putting a gun to your head.

I get extremely annoyed by things that are totally illogical.

So, sue me.

hahahahah, calm down ese! :)