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If it were mountain climbing etc. and not sex would novice teens be allowed to do it?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (26829points) September 13th, 2010

If it were anything else other than sex would people just turn a blind eye? This question is in general so you are forced to focus on the logic of the question and not the emotion of if teens having sex is good, natural, etc.

Imagine you discover your teen is concocting brew with a chemistry set that has the potential to blow a truck sized hole in the floor would you hand them a fire extinguisher and say “If you are going to mix explosives at least be safe?” If you knew a teen was going to travel up the Amazon when he/she has had no training all they know about it was from books or DVDs the person they will travel with are just as clueless but tell them be careful? You would not let a teen go to fly a jet if they believe they can and because their copilot had 4 hours in a flight simulator and instead of stopping them you just hand them a parachute because you feel you can’t ground them? If a teen wanted to sail around the world with a partner when neither has been in anything larger then a canoe would you try to stop them or just hand them a life jacket and say “In case you need one?” Teens and sex is about a smart of a mix as butting box jelly fish in your pool to add excitement. Yet no one even tried hard to stop it they just say either be careful, smart, or just use a condom. We know teens are going to do sex because there is no effective deterrent to stop them. It can and often has altered and ruined lives (sadly mostly the female half). Most teens have no clue the ramifications, not really, that is why there is an age of consent because they are too much a novice to have sex with anyone, so, why trust two novice engage in something with the potential to alter their lives forever and many times not in good ways when if it were playing with explosives, racing cars, climbing mountains, flying jets, etc they wouldn’t?

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zen_'s avatar

I think the answer is in your details: We know teens are going to have sex because there is no effective deterrent to stop them.

I don’t think there is much more that we can do: there are laws forbidding under-age sex, there is sex education in the schools and there is the birds and the bees talk – plus condoms.

I don’t think you can compare sex between consulting teens, hopefully intelligent and informed, condom using teens, to flying a jet without training, or playing with explosives. The former is inevitable, and though at times has disastrous ramifications, is also quite reversable (most of the time; I repeat, most of the time). The latter, well, a truck sized explosion will kill you – as will flying a jet without training.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@zen_ Weeeeeell….....we don’t now but there are ways to sour the milk it is just this society do not have the stomach to do it.

FactFromFictionTruthFromDction's avatar

If it doesn’t fit, you must acquit. I would advise my child to be careful during any dangerous activity, whether it be sex or mountain climbing.

augustlan's avatar

No matter what age you start having sex, you’d still be a novice. If you’re never to have sex as a novice, you’d never have sex at all. You’ve got to start sometime, and the teenage years are usually that time. I wouldn’t consider teenagers uninformed. They have sex ed at school, and if the parents are doing their jobs, that’s followed up by many discussions in the home.

rooeytoo's avatar

Every time some kid in here asks about having sex, I always answer by saying you must be ready for the consequences, meaning pregnancy, because there is NO method of birth control that is 100% effective. I think that fact should be stressed a lot more than it is. I also think it should be stressed to boys that these days DNA can tell exactly who the father is and if it is you, then you are going to have consequences to face as well, financially at the very least. The idea that boys who have sex indiscriminately are studs must be changed. It must be stressed that a child is a 20 year commitment, in this day and age often a 40 year commitment. Looking at it from that perspective makes it a little less attractive

aprilsimnel's avatar

@augustlan is right. It’s a human biological imperative to have sex. It just is. Conversely, it’s not a biological imperative to climb Mt. Kilimanjaro.

Nature impels teens to have sex because the DNA must be replicated. The best we can do is prepare kids for the inevitable. Sex for the vast majority of people is inevitable. And the only reason why teen pregnancy is a consequence is because our current society is not set up to bring teens into the workforce or enable them to start families much before 18–21. Nor do we have entire families in one home, like The Waltons, that could support a teen’s new family.

To expect a kid to abstain from sex for 5 or 6 years after nature says GO! to their bodies is a bit incredible. Possible, yes, but damn. Very, very hard.

marinelife's avatar

Dangerous, ice covered peaks? No.

Seaofclouds's avatar

I would not encourage my son to do anything he wasn’t educated about. Once he gets a little older, he will get a more in depth talk about sex. If the talk goes my way, he will see pictures of STDs and get a lot of information about STDs and pregnancy. My husband doesn’t like that idea and he has another plan for the talk. We are still deciding which talk our son will get. My husband wants to give him the same talk his dad gave him (which worked well for him). Either way, this will happen before our son has sex (hopefully).

For any of the other situations you mentioned, if it was something my son was passionate about and he really wanted to do. I would encourage him to have the proper training first and I would do my best to help him get that training.

wundayatta's avatar

We generally train teens before we let them do any of those other things. Why not train them for sex, too?

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

Sex is more accessible than Mt. Kilimanjaro and is more likely to happen. A parent has to explain to their teens about the dangers and the positives associated with sex but our children will make their own decisions.

zen_'s avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central I challenge myself and try to answer your questions despite the many typos, errors and contradictions, but I really do not understand this: Weeeeeell….....we don’t now but there are ways to sour the milk it is just this society do not have the stomach to do it.

I swear, I just can’t wrap my brain around it.

CMaz's avatar

We all want (need) to mate.

FactFromFictionTruthFromDction's avatar

@zen_ Hey, dude, it’s really not that hard: if it doesn’t fit, you must acquit.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

zen_ Weeeeeell….....we don’t now but there are ways to sour the milk it is just this society do not have the stomach to do it.
I swear, I just can’t wrap my brain around it.

That is about the main reason that the US has one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in all the industrialized nations and I am sure giving most 3rd world nations a run for their money too. Because the gate keepers love it so much they can’t phantom not allowing it until a person is ready or at least more reasonable to handle it….oh, it is tongue in cheekly, something called the age of consent which apparently is a quite toothless document for the most part.

aprilsimnel _ It’s a human biological imperative to have sex. It just is. Human beings are hard wired to be a lot of things but we as a society don’t say _”well, that is logical and natural, so whatever”. Humans might be more disposed to be narcissistic, selfish, egotistical, arrogant, etc but most don’t just put up with it even though it is legal or quite natural; people are trained to be nice, compassionate, and humble, or at least civil.

To expect a kid to abstain from sex for 5 or 6 years after nature says GO! to their bodies is a bit incredible. That is why consent laws –as well as a lot of labor laws— are feckless, they only deal with a very small band of teen sexuality –and is not really for the benefit of the teen in a greater sense. Going just by nature a person between 14–16 is a young adult able to start a family of their own, so logically trying to stave off young adulthood until society feels they want to loosen up is not the greatest move I would agree. If you are going to play it that way play it that way with heart; don’t be namby pamby about it.

rooeytoo Every time some kid in here asks about having sex, I always answer by saying you must be ready for the consequences, meaning pregnancy, because there is NO method of birth control that is 100% effective. To be ready for the consequences is to acquiesce that they are going to do it. A kid playing a jet flying game can figure because the video game was so real he can actually fly a jet but no one will say “You can try that but you can crash and burn, just so you know the consequences, if you have to just try to remember where and how to use your egress system”. Most people will say no way are you even attempting to fly that jet until you are older and trained. Which is the point, sex is not looked upon as life damaging as even choking on a piece of meat.

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