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Is this a 'lie'?

Asked by cazzie (24516points) December 4th, 2012

‘I lost my phone.’ as opposed to what really happened; he was robbed on the street by an armed person and had his phone and money stolen.

I certainly consider it lying.

He has also lost his passport and his bank card, but only told me about his passport, which he claims was ‘pickpocketed’ from his back pocket during a night out. Why he had his passport in his back pocket during a boozy night out in Rio, I have no idea.

So, is he lying, or is he just trying to not look so bad in my eyes? or both?

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Seek's avatar

Smells fishy to me.

And yeah, armed robbery isn’t something to lie about, especially to a significant other. He’s going to have a hell of a time at the Brazillian consulate. Oi vey. Sorry, hon.

tranquilsea's avatar

I wonder what was said to him as he “lost” his stuff. He could be afraid.

troubleinharlem's avatar

He could be sparing you from some of the details so that you don’t get extremely worried about him while he’s out in Rio. While it is technically lying, it’s good to make clear that you wouldn’t love him any less for telling the whole truth.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

Sounds more likely he got into a fight and lost, and the other guy cleaned out his pockets. So yes, both lying and trying not to look so bad..

cazzie's avatar

@tranquilsea he descibed it as a ‘relatively civil’ hold-up to a mutual person, so no, not afraid. This isn’t the first time this has happened to him in Rio. I would say he is embarrassed.

sinscriven's avatar

It’s not the full story, but it’s not a lie. His items are no longer in his possession and he does not know where they can be found which is the definition of lost.

Why he didn’t say the whole story is anyone’s guess. Could be his ego partially, and partially not trying to worry you. Brazil isn’t exactly the safest spot on the planet, crime is pretty high.

burntbonez's avatar

A man needs to maintain his myth. Losing things is not as bad as having them taken. I’d say embarrassment plays a role.

As to calling it a lie or not, that’s up to you. It wouldn’t be a lie to me, but I’m a guy. It strikes me that women don’t understand men’s prevarications that well, and are more likely to think that what we say is lying. So. most likely, it’s a lie to you. Does it make a difference? Does it make you feel like you know your husband any less?

cazzie's avatar

@burntbonez know him less? No, it confirms to me what I already know about him and I feel all the more a fool for sticking around.

burntbonez's avatar

If you feel a fool for sticking around, does that suggest that, to some degree, you have been lying to yourself? I don’t mean this in a mean way. It sounds to me that you have been fooling yourself into sticking around, which is another way of eliding the truth. But I don’t know. My apologies if I have spoken out of school.

gailcalled's avatar

@cazzie: Are you asking this question in a vacuum, or can we relate this behavior to the many other really upsetting domestic instances you have mentioned on fluther?

CWOTUS's avatar

I’m reminded of a story that was passed around some time ago as a warning from some guy who mentioned that he had stopped to pick up a lovely female hitch-hiker when he was out driving away from home one day. In no time at all she had seduced him, and then stolen his wallet.

He mentioned in the warning that this had happened earlier that same week on Monday, again on Wednesday, twice on Thursday, and then once each on Saturday and Sunday. (He had to be sure to cash his paycheck on Friday and divide it between two wallets, so he’d be able to produce decent results over the weekend.)

But I’m sure that’s not the case. It was just a funny story.

marinelife's avatar

It’s a lie.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

Multiple occurrences of robbery may mean he is involved in ultra-hazardous activities.

augustlan's avatar

A lie of omission, perhaps. It is technically true that his things are lost, he just didn’t tell you how they got lost. I can see someone doing this so as not to worry me while they are far from home, but I’d expect the whole story as soon as possible. If I wasn’t told for a long while after they were safe and sound, I’d be pissed.

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

Cazzie there’s a simple test. Trust VS Dont trust. One works, the other doesn’t.

chyna's avatar

A lie. I would wonder why this keeps happening to him.

jca's avatar

Can someone please fill me in on what happened in the past that people keep referring to? Did he lie about that or those occasions, too?

bkcunningham's avatar

Uh, if it isn’t the truth, it is a lie. Simple as that.

Sayd_Whater's avatar

In fact, he did lost his things… He just forgot to say that he lost them for someone else!!!
Nevertheless, I would consider it a lie but I would only forgive if the truth was told asap.

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