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Would it be fair to require all teenagers turning 18 to pass a citizen test?

Asked by talljasperman (21916points) September 7th, 2015

Also to pledge loyalty to the country.

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Adirondackwannabe's avatar

You willing to take the test too? He who proposes such should be the first to take it. And what are the consequences if you fail?

talljasperman's avatar

@Adirondackwannabe I don’t know. But we do have high school diploma exams. You can’t get a good job with out it.

ibstubro's avatar

As long as every current citizen can answer the same test.

THINK about that. Can you think of a single question?

majorrich's avatar

I think that children should be able to demonstrate basic competency in American history and other citizenship knowledge with their examination to graduate from High School. Seeing some of those “worlds dumbest” pranks getting women to sign a petition to end woman suffrage to end womens suffering and getting lots of young people to sign is a disgrace.

majorrich's avatar

We have proficiency exams in Ohio for graduation too.

zenvelo's avatar

No loyalty oaths. That was a Joe McCarthy ploy. Who is any of us to question our loyalty? And you, @talljasperman, you are a subject of the Crown, not a citizen. Are you going swear fealty to the Queen?

ragingloli's avatar

I am not going to pledge loyalty or allegiance to any country, or party, or leader, or god.

Buttonstc's avatar

And exactly what would be the consequences if they fail the knowledge part?

And if they refuse to take the loyalty oath, do they get kicked out of the country ? Or what consequence would there be.

If there are no consequences attached to either of these requirements, then what incentive would teenagers have to comply? Because we all know how much teens just love obeying authority, don’t we ~~ ha ha.

ucme's avatar

Citizen? What is that shite anyway?

Berserker's avatar

@ragingloli I am not going to pledge loyalty or allegiance to any country, or party, or leader, or god.

Ditto. Fuck that.

talljasperman's avatar

I pledge my allegiance to myself.

majorrich's avatar

I would think that if an American student couldn’t tell you where the capital is, what year 1776 is important for, what and where the Civil war was about, how many states there are. Easy stuff like that, then a session of summer school is in order. Then if they can pass the (basically a quiz) they can get their diploma. I gotta tell you the answers to elementary questions they got (and this is Fox News) These kinds of answers from people at the beach. Then while I was on youtube I found This little gem filmed of Miss USA contestants.

ibstubro's avatar

The parody if Miss USA candidates was funny, @majorrich.

The Faux News clip was entertaining, not to be confused with news in any way.

jca's avatar

If you fail the citizenship test, they put you on a raft made out of an old Chevy, and drift that Chevy right out to sea.

Hamshank's avatar

I don’t think that would be fair at all. It would be a tragedy if someone were to spend 12 years in school and not walk away knowing SOMETHING about America, but if we live in a “free” country then a person should have the freedom not to care about America’s history. Tragic and unwise, but their choice.

ibstubro's avatar

Yeah, what’s the consequence of failing?
You’re deported to the country of your birth?
They send a cop car to drive 99.9% of the failures around the block?

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@ibstubro I was born here. Where do I get deported to.

ibstubro's avatar

Here, @Adirondackwannabe.
Duh.
We couldn’t deport you “there”.
You’re not a native!

majorrich's avatar

I think you would have to take a Civics class in summer school

Here2_4's avatar

I should think privileges of citizenship would be affected, if such a requirement were in place. There would have to be a curve, for a person’s ability to comprehend, and/or express knowledge of some things. Probably voting rights would be withheld, entry into some organizations, and maybe a difference in taxation. More extreme would go to ownership of property; land, and none essentials. Boats, RVs, and other big ticket items could be owned only by licensed citizens.
Maybe those who opt out of the test could earn their citizenship (As some immigrants do) by serving in the military.
Hmmmmm.
I’m proud to be a citizen, and know things like; there are the same number of states as cards in a standard poker deck.

basstrom188's avatar

With or without the reference to God?

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