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How do you deal with insufferable in laws?

Asked by Harlequin (76points) October 26th, 2017 from iPhone

My inlaws are crazy. I moved to my husband’s home town with him after graduating and before we were engaged. My SIL was evil and talked behind my back the moment I arrived. Her husband told our MIL that she was jealous. None of this family aside from my husband has ever lived away from their hometown or gone to get a real education. They all voted for Trump.

SIL was not someone I wanted to spend time with so I stopped associating with her. MIL went on a three hour rant and told me how terrible I am and blamed me for SIL treating me badly and expected that I just make peace for her benefit. MIL proceeded to use my parents’ divorce against me: my dad was just a sperm dad, people from divorces just have a sadness because they’re broken, I should just get on a plane and fly back to where I came from, because of my parents’ divorce I love to destroy families because it’s all I know, etc. Never a negative comment about SIL or brother in law who is the younger, dim brother who dropped out of college and works for the family business.

Anyway, I began not attending events like my SIL’s bridal shower. MIL hit the fan and has hated me ever since, despite my SIL not coming to the morning getting ready party at my wedding. Apparently because I didn’t attend the shower two years ago, that justifies anything SIL decides to do.

My cousin in law and I were close. She doesn’t work or have a life and we drifted apart. She use to call me her best friend but when I began my career I wasn’t available as much and lost the energy to deal with the family drama and her pregnancy issues. She’s now best buddies with SIL and I’m sure it began because she wanted to get at me.

Despite all this, the family won’t let me quietly drift away. I’m invited to EVERYTHING. This is a family (mind you who all stab each other in the back and don’t like each other) who has a party for anything “for grandma.” If I don’t go to events I become more and more blacklisted.

I did not respond to SIL’s baby shower invite and now there’s another for cousin in law. She asked me if I got her invitation and when I told her yes she automatically just assumed I was coming and said “I’m so glad you’re coming!!” I resent that and can’t stand that the family just assumes I’m going to whatever they invite me to.

Long story short I want to be left alone. My husband is not close with them and doesn’t care about the tension. It doesn’t bother him. It deeply bothers me and upsets me that I haven’t been able to foster a nice family dynamic. I DO NOT want to be invited to anymore events. I feel like getting in my car and driving away to anywhere.

If I weren’t married or didn’t love my husband I would be right back on the plane to where I came from. But I love him and that isn’t an option.

The largest issue is that if I incinerate the familial relations, there is a risk of my husband being excommunicated from a large inheritance. I don’t want to be responsible for ruining that for him and our future children.

I feel trapped. I go to therapy. I take medication. Nothing has helped me get over this crappy situation. The things my MIL said to me, things I subconsciously feared people thought about me and the divorce, were basically confirmed and something inside me fractured that day. It’s been three years and it feels like a window was shattered out of my soul.

I don’t want anything to do with them but for my husband’s sake I feel obligated. I’m terrible at being phony at these sickening family events. Every time I get another invite it brings back this avalanche of bitter feelings.

I do not want to go to this baby shower. My cousin in law has NEVER called me up just to say hi. Never a how are you, how’s your job? That goes for all of them. It’s a selfish and one sided dynamic. Why do I keep being invited? They rarely do events where the men are involved. It’s always all the catty women in one room with babies and wine.

What can I do? What have you done in similar situations? I’m losing my mind.

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Hawaii_Jake's avatar

This sounds like absolute hell. I’m sorry you’re going through it.

I’ve been in therapy for a very long time. I suggest talking to your therapist specifically about creating healthy boundaries. There are skills to learn that aid in situations like this.

I also suggest you talk to your therapist about how to tell your husband that this is affecting you a great deal. If necessary, get couples counseling.

Best of luck to you.

Harlequin's avatar

Thank you…. I appreciate the empathy. My husband isn’t a big fan of talking about these problems over and over again. He is a very matter-of-fact kind of dude. He has always been on my side and has never wavered when it comes to loyalty. I know none of this is his fault and he can’t help that his family is nuts. Mine is hardly perfect.

I have a hard time not doing “the right thing.” I know the right thing is to just go to these events and phony it up with them and come home and wash my mouth with Clorox. The other side of the coin is, why don’t I just do what the hell I want to do? They don’t make an effort with me or go out of their way, so why shouldn’t I be able to do the same thing? This is my conflict.

seawulf575's avatar

Sorry to hear about the strife, Harlequin. One thing I noticed in your original description is that I don’t see a lot of you talking to your husband. In-laws are only in-laws because you married someone. They are intrusive into your life because you are tied to them through your husband. I have a very old fashioned view of marriage. I married my wife because I love her and I put her before all others, including my own family. Thankfully I haven’t had the strife you are going through, but I have broken off relations with my own brother and his treatment of my wife was one of the reasons.
I would suggest talking to your husband. Tell him your concerns, what bothers you. Get his suggestions as to what can be done about it. He might not care about the tension because it isn’t directly hitting him and he doesn’t care about the family as much, but it is affecting you. That he should care about.
As for the inheritance, I have a really skeptical view of that sort of thing. If your family loves you and wants to leave you an inheritance when they die, great. If they want to lord it over you so that they can be annoying and manipulative, that is just wrong. And in the end, they might decide he just wasn’t subservient enough and cut him out of the inheritance altogether.

Harlequin's avatar

What do you all think about only attending events “for grandma” when my husband and myself are both invited? That would take these engagements down to once or twice a year.

Should I care about cousin in law’s baby shower? It isn’t as though we have much of a relationship anyway. My husband doesn’t care about the inheritance or the family or if I go to the events or not. Should I take his lead on this?

My husband says he prefers not to confront but do things subtly. I am a more “emotive” person. As in, he rarely talks to his mother after what she did to me and he does not talk to his brother much either. The difference between him and me is that he can go to an event and leave and it doesn’t affect him. He tells me that our absence is noted and that it shouldn’t be a surprise to his mother. Instead of yelling at her about what happened, he wants to “pay her back” slowly by not involving her in our lives except for the bare minimum, and he says when we have children she will not be deeply involved with that either.

What’s wrong with sending a gift and saying “Hey I will be unable to come to your party that day, but we would love to take you out to dinner sometime soon to celebrate.”

I have friends “reschedule” things with me all the time and I don’t go postal over it. Yikes.

tinyfaery's avatar

It’s his family so it’s his responsibility to take care issues that arise because of them. It’s unfair of him to put you in this position. If he doesn’t get the inheritance it is his fault, not yours. You are not obligated to heal any issues with his family. You do not have to do anything you do not want to do.

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Harlequin's avatar

It isn’t the marriage that’s the problem- just the baggage.

snowberry's avatar

Agree with @tinyfaery

I don’t know how to say this more strongly.

Ask him to help you by presenting a united front to them. If he’s not willing to do that, then he is siding with them by default, and you will NEVER win, and it will never get better.

He needs to “man up” and protect you by helping you set appropriate boundaries!

Kardamom's avatar

Have a very frank talk with your husband. Let him know, in no uncertain terms, how much his family (give real examples) cause you pain, anxiety and grief. Let him know that you would prefer if he explain it to them, rather than you, because you are done. Then be done.

If you want, you could craft a letter(s) to one or more of them explaining why you are opting out of the family events. You don’t have to do this, but it might be cathartic for you. Just be kind, and polite, and truthful, but don’t go into the ugly details (they won’t believe they are like this, anyway).

Then stay away from all interactions with his family. Let your hubby know that it is OK for him to attend these events by himself if he wants to, and that you will support that and not give him any grief to for going (and then don’t give him any grief for going). Just don’t go, don’t interact, don’t engage, nothing.

If hubby doesn’t agree, or won’t go along with your decision, let him know that you want/need him to go to at least one counseling session with you. If he doesn’t, or balks, understand that he needs/wants his family’s approval/blessing, more than he wants to support you. Make your next decision based upon that information.

I have a situation like this going on in my family right now. The couple is getting a divorce, because the hubby liked his sucky mother more than he loved/respected his wife : (

funkdaddy's avatar

Just as an alternative tactic, if you don’t want to burn the whole place down yet (which you’re totally entitled to do, it sounds pretty bad), maybe you could reset the situation a little bit and then, if possible, take control of how you interact with them? Make it more on your terms, but in a different way, so they aren’t so defensive.

My friendly, but odd (to me), in-laws have their own customs and strange traditions, which includes talking about people and discussing family most people involved had never met. They get together 6–10 holidays a year, every holiday was the same routine and no one had fun. At one point I was done and just stopped showing up, but it hurt people more than I intended. It also became a much bigger deal once I had kids to not participate with local family.

Anyway, some things that helped were mostly just having confidence and a plan going in. Little things like addressing the weirdness in a joking manner. (“I’m new to this whole <family name> gathering thing, show me how it’s done.”), joking about the oddness (“Explain it to the new guy, why exactly do we sit here and talk smack about all the family that isn’t here?”)... sometimes they have explanations, sometimes they’ve never looked at it, it’s just habit. I also started simply stating why I was there sometimes (“I’m just here for the food, I’ll get out of your way for the gossip.” or even “Why don’t you guys let me cook, alone, in the kitchen, while you hang in the living room this year?”) One year, I just served margaritas the whole time. Once I started participating, my suggestions were received a lot better, I could explain my traditions (“it’s great you guys get together for every, single, holiday, but my family mainly spent holidays recharging”), and absences weren’t taken as judgement.

Your in-law family has been doing those gatherings the same way since they were old enough to participate. They’ve been gossiping with those same women you see even longer. I hope you understand that they’re a little (or a lot) self conscious about it as well. They see what you see about them, they know their faults, but are hoping you don’t call them out in the same way your MIL did to you. When you’re not participating, or not happy there, they don’t see it as a result of their actions because everyone else involved knows how to get by, so they see it as your rejection of the things that are important to them. That’s not fair, or right, but it can inform how you interact and improve the situation. Basically, if you give them confidence you don’t hate them, they’ll stop hating on you, and lose the power to do any damage anyway.

It’s up to you how much you can handle, and my actual advice would be to move. There are a lot of awesome places to live, and your husband doesn’t sound enamored with the family life either. But, barring that, some sort of reconciliation on your terms might be better in the long term than scorched earth.

snowberry's avatar

Gosh @funkdaddy’s excellent advice is very creative, and insightful.. If hubs isn’t up to supporting you, this is your best shot.

kritiper's avatar

Desperate times with insufferable in-laws might call for desperate means. I’d kill them.

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