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If there is a shortage of workers to fill a position...rest in details?

Asked by SQUEEKY2 (23123points) December 28th, 2017

I have been told from time to time that ,that would drive the wages up for that position, why has that not happened in the trucking industry due to the driver shortage?
They in turn try to entice foreign workers to fill these driver jobs.
For those that argue and say wages have increased for these jobs, gee if that is true then why the shortage or drivers?
I know from being in this industry for close to thirty years the pay has barely gone up at all.
What is it going to take to get drivers?

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RedDeerGuy1's avatar

Supply and demand. Will kick in hopefully.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

It hasn’t so far @RedDeerGuy1 and the shortage of drivers is getting worse not better.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

Too many young adults want an academic career and they snub the trades. I have the same problem.

SergeantQueen's avatar

Are these driving jobs the people that drive long distances to get products from place to place? Like sometimes through multiple states or driving for hours and hours at times? I think it doesn’t have to do with the pay it might just have to do with lack of interest. I wouldn’t want a job like that, and if it doesn’t pay well to begin with it will drive people away. That’s a lot of driving, and long distances, etc.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Exactly @SergeantQueen older drivers are retiring and younger people are not filling void, but wouldn’t raising the rates be a good start to try and attract new drivers?

SergeantQueen's avatar

I guess. I’m the type of person that would definitely not want to work a job I absolutely don’t like, no matter how good the pay is, unless I really needed to and the job I really want isn’t paying enough to live off of. I’d rather work a job I love than one I don’t, but I’m still young and I don’t need to worry about supporting myself yet so I’m sure other people would have different answers.

imrainmaker's avatar

I don’t think increasing pay might work if young generation isn’t interested in the kind of job itself. I’m not sure if that’s the problem with military as well or not but they might be facing same issue of manpower if people aren’t ready irrespective of the facilities they are provided with.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Why do you say increasing the money wouldn’t work?
What else would it take to entice new drivers.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

@SQUEEKY2 I would jump at a chance to get a good paying job. I would be tempted if my room bord pills and training and school where taken care of.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

I don’t know if your auto correct is acting up but your spelling in your last post was horrible, @RedDeerGuy1

stanleybmanly's avatar

The one SOLID clue as to whether or not wage stagnation is a defining element of any trade or occupation in this country is ALWAYS the rapid transformation of the workforce from native born locals to immigrants and recent arrivals. But don’t worry Squeek. There is now a full court press to rapidly incorporate those self driving trucks.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

I have pointed out before @stanleybmanly it’s not going to take the driver totally out of the picture more or less as security person with the load.
I would like to know if they plan to cut the persons wage.

Zaku's avatar

Economics is not a hard science. Things happen based on what’s going on in the minds of the people making the decisions. My guess in this case would be that freight company management tends to have an idea that they should try to keep wages as low as they can, and that there will be drivers to be found somewhere, for instance the foreign workers you mentioned.

flutherother's avatar

The same thing is happening here in the UK and not just in the transport industries. Pay has not been keeping pace with inflation and millions of people are becoming worse off.

“The Office for National Statistics said average weekly wages rose by 2.3% in the three months to October, below inflation at 3%.
Real earnings, which take into account the cost of living, fell by 0.4%
Unemployment declined by 26,000 to 1.43 million, while the jobless rate remained at 4.3%, the lowest since 1975.”

SQUEEKY2's avatar

What I am saying is there is a real shortage of drivers in North America ,and the industry is trying to get drivers with everything but money.
For the hours you have to put in and employers expect a lot of free bees from the drivers, younger people just are not interested in becoming transport drivers, gee maybe if you up the rate you might just entice new drivers to fill those seats.
But I guess they will exhaust every option including hiring foreign nationals, probably hoping self driving trucks will become main stream, before considering paying a real wage for the job.
But even if self driving trucks do get a foot in the industry, it won’t totally take a human out of the cab, they still will need a person with the truck in case of breakdown, and security for the load,my concern if that does happen will they try to reduce the rate even more?

stanleybmanly's avatar

I think there is an unprecedented resistance across the board to the traditional pressure of labor shortages on wages. In your industry Squeek the problem is right there for all to see, but the creeping and unacknowledged catastrophe is hidden or unrecognized in many fields where the slow long term consequences promise to be horrific. For example, could Trump possibly arrive at the White House In a land where teaching was an esteemed profession?

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