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Do white men date asian women more than black women because of racism?

Asked by dunkin_donutz (441points) December 22nd, 2009

This is a sensitive topic and something I’ve thought about but never dared to discuss it with anyone I know. Has anyone else wondered about this? Let’s say that white men date asian women more than black women just based on what they find attractive and what they don’t find attractive. Could there still be racism underneath what they’re attracted to or not attracted to? Or do you think white men date asian women more than black women because it is more socially acceptable to do so? In which case, isn’t that also racist?

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filmfann's avatar

I dated a few asian women because that’s what appeals to me.
Racism had nothing to do with it.

pjanaway's avatar

Are you talking about me :p

I like asians, but totally do not find blacks attractive. That doesn’t mean I’m racist tho.

Freedom_Issues's avatar

I would think it would have more to do with culture and not race. Maybe is seems like most white guys are not attracted to black women, who knows. I’m not particularly attracted to black men, but that doesn’t make me racist.

dpworkin's avatar

I’m just guessing, but I think certain men might date Asian women in the feckless hope that they are more submissive than the other women in their lives who have too much self-esteem to put up with their bullshit. They are not likely to want a strong Black woman in their lives. Of course they will inevitably disappointed, as they discover that all women are human, and none are “living dolls”.

BlackgivestoBlue's avatar

ummmmmm I always thought white men date asians because they are gay :) Asian women have less womanly features…....I’m only half kidding though. A lot of gay men I know before they came out dated asian women….strange coincidence I guess.

jrpowell's avatar

I enjoy the looks of Asian women. I don’t know why. I’m not attracted to African American women. I don’t know why this is. But I wouldn’t consider myself racist. I like women with big boobs too.

dpworkin's avatar

Big boos? Are you sure you didn’t mean boo-hoos?

iphigeneia's avatar

Here in Australia at least, there simply are more Asian women than black women for white men to date, and Asian women are more likely to be of a similar socioeconomic status to white men. I’m pretty sure the first point doesn’t hold true in America, but the second one might.

Attraction, however, is largely based on finding a partner whose genetic characteristics will mix with yours to create the best offspring. This is explained, if not in a particularly scientific way, in the first episode of John Safran’s Race Relations in which John Safran discovers, by sniffing women’s underwear, that he is more attracted to Eurasian women than Jewish women.

azlotto's avatar

I’ve dated both and prefer asian women…Has nothing to do with racism, it’s just personal preference.

iphigeneia's avatar

@janbb what’s that supposed to mean?

Blondesjon's avatar

@pdworkin beat me to it. Asian women are perceived as more submissive than Black women. Sexism runs way deeper than racism in most culture whether we care to admit to it or not.

Facade's avatar

Once you go Black…

proXXi's avatar

Ive dated both. Racism was never a factor for me.

However, a half Japanese girl I dated was a racist in a literal sense: She sincerely believed that the Japanese race was superior to all other Asian races.

janbb's avatar

@iphigeneia Sorry for being abstruse. Didn’t mean to insult you; “feh” is a Yiddish expresssion of distaste. I find the idea of sniffing underpants to determine to whom you are attracted somewhat offputting. Hence the expression.

Grisaille's avatar

This question is absurd. Personal palette does not ever equate to prejudice, unless in cases of prejudice.

That said, listen to @pdworkin.

@Facade

;)

Facade's avatar

;)
And to add something substantial I agree with @pdworkin. People view Asian women as submissive. Most Black women I know don’t take shit from anyone. That’s hard for some weaker men to deal with.

iphigeneia's avatar

@janbb Oh that’s okay, I agree with you that it’s rather distasteful (even if I can’t help but be amused by the show, and it gets a lot worse)

proXXi's avatar

Far too often a black woman’s “not taking shit from anyone” comes off as arrogance, not strength.

colliedog's avatar

@Facade Reminds me of the line from “Family Guy”:

“Once you go black, you go deaf”.

proXXi's avatar

And I’m Tom Tucker….

dpworkin's avatar

@proXXi Speak for yourself. To me it comes off as accomplishment and self esteem, and it is very attractive.

janbb's avatar

Lots of generalizations here…....

Facade's avatar

@colliedog haha!

@proXXi If or when that is the case, it’s better to be arrogant than be controlled by your spouse.

dpworkin's avatar

@janbb are you tawkina me?

proXXi's avatar

There’s a very fine line between self esteem and arrogance.

Conveying the former instead of the latter is no easy task.

Grisaille's avatar

@proXXi In all fairness, Japan is leader in most technological industries…

Facade's avatar

@proXXi [joke] It’s not that fine of a line. I do it very well. Read some of my magnificently worded posts, and you’ll be amazed at how much self-esteem I have. I’m so great! [/joke]

janbb's avatar

I’m tawking everyone but if the birkenstock fits….

I am uncomfortable with the discussion somewhat because while I do feel we are all perhaps attracted to certain physical types initially, I like to believe that it is individual qualities that make a relationship last and not a superficial racial or other attraction. Surely there are assertive Asian women, passive Black women, quiet Jewish women…...

colliedog's avatar

@Facade says “Black women I know don’t take shit from anyone. That’s hard for some weaker men to deal with.”

Feel free to call me a weak person because black women scare the bejesus out of me.

Facade's avatar

@janbb I don’t really understand the concept of not being attracted to an entire race of people. I can be attracted to anyone of any race granted they were actually attractive people. Am I missing something? I honestly don’t see how you can count an entire race of people out.

@colliedog It’s ok. Most of us are scary lol

janbb's avatar

@Facade Sounds like you and I are on the same page here.

Grisaille's avatar

All I know is that Facade is hot.

proXXi's avatar

li li li li lick it like a lollipop…...

Facade's avatar

@janbb Good :)

@Grisaille Oh stop :P

Grisaille's avatar

I’m just saying.

Facade's avatar

You’re sweet

PretentiousArtist's avatar

I don’t like either, latinas is where it’s at
KIDDING

dpworkin's avatar

@janbb Acknowledging cultural differences is just part of life. You do it all the time. It has nothing to do with racialism. There is a reason that you feel that you are in your comfort zone when you are around Estaern European Jews, and it’s not because you are a racist.

AstroChuck's avatar

Some of you guys are way too picky. As long as the woman has the right parts I’m happy.

Mmmm. Brown sugar, how come you dance so good?

Grisaille's avatar

I’m with @AstroChuck. All women are pink on the inside.

…I’ll see myself out.

janbb's avatar

@pdworkin You make a valid point; I will have to go and ponder and then perhaps resume the discussion.

AstroChuck's avatar

@Grisaille- You’re a braver man than me. I thought of saying the same thing but then thought better of it.

dpworkin's avatar

It’s easy: cliches become cliches because they occur repeatedly. Of course there are huge variations within groups and between groups, but when you think of Michelle Obama, do you think of a shy, retiring, submissive woman? And ain’t she hot? I sure think so.

janbb's avatar

But the question is; How soon do the cliches become damaging? (Hooked noses, money-grubbing, loudmouthed)

Grisaille's avatar

I apologize for nothing.

Facade's avatar

@janbb Pretty soon

Jude's avatar

I’ll take @Facade, please’nthankx

Facade's avatar

I think there’s going to be a fantastic threesome going on soon… hell yea

Jude's avatar

I’m down..

Facade's avatar

Ok, you be down, and I’ll be up here teehee

Jude's avatar

Ha, works for me.

But, we can send Gris out to find some sustenance, right? ;-)

proXXi's avatar

Oh my! : )

Facade's avatar

Definitely. He’ll be useful for something a little later ;)

Jude's avatar

Heh, feels like we have our own “exhibitionist award” going on.

Facade's avatar

The more the merrier

Jude's avatar

Nice. Bye, Gris.

@Facade <<come-hither motion with finger.>>

Facade's avatar

coming :)

ratboy's avatar

It’s the novelty—an Asian woman’s vaginal slit is rumored to be horizontal rather than vertical.

proXXi's avatar

Not true, trust me.

Facade's avatar

You guys missed the party hehe :)

Kelly_Obrien's avatar

My first honey was Japanese, and my next was African American.

Fluthermucker's avatar

~Yes. All white men are racists, doesn’t everyone know that by now? The vast majority are misogynistic homophobes who can barely read or write and have Oedipus Complexes, too. Read your newspapers and watch MSNBC, man. You must be un-American!~

MRSHINYSHOES's avatar

It’s just a matter of what turns you on——it has nothing to do with racism. Just because I am not attracted to one particular race doesn’t mean I am racist. Racism is an active dislike or hate, something that doesn’t figure into mutual attraction or unattraction. I think some men, regardless of race, are very attracted to Asian women because, generally, they tend to be more “gentle” and “feminine”, or less “domineering” than women of other races. Their mannerisms, in general, tend to have a “softer edge” and their physical attributes often match this softness. If you’ve ever been to Asia——Japan, Thailand, Singapore, Korea, etc., you know what I mean. The women there are quite different from the women in North America and Europe.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

Fact from fiction, truth from diction. Racism comes to play if you say I would never date a Black woman no matter what, if she had ANY black in her she is out. Many people do like black women and a lot don’t. There have been famous black women that by in large is considered attractive though some are blended Jada Pinkett Smith, Beyonce, Vansessa Williams more so in her younger days Lisa Bonet etc. And contrarily to popular myth not all Asian women are stunningly attractive or docile. Many Black women might be oppinionated and less docile because many hardly can catch a break or a decent man they are not all difficul hot heads. But you shoul go with the woman, if she makes you comfortable or not. I always thought Asian women hot since jr high, but I am engaged to neither Black woman or Asian.

mattbrowne's avatar

Do green men date honey-blonde-haired women more than chestnut-brown-haired women because of color blindness?

Come on, what matters is whether the woman is charming and smart and hot or not. And I can’t see any correlation of these qualities with hair or skin color.

proXXi's avatar

Starship captains date green women.

Grisaille's avatar

What? I missed it?!

…Dammit.

mattbrowne's avatar

Yeah, T’Pol’s kind of cute, isn’t she?

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destroyerofbs's avatar

In response to the idiots who say Asian women don’t have ‘womanly’ features and therefore attract gay men—Does that make all Asian men gay? Think, people, it ain’t illegal yet.

destroyerofbs's avatar

Also, anyone who says “Asian women are more submissive,” have you ever actually met any Asian women, or are you just repeating stuff you read in ‘Stuff’ magazine?

deedee18's avatar

I think it is a little of both. And again we have to look at what the black woman i being prtrayed as, especially in AMerican culutre. LOud, agressive etc. Where as the never ending myths of a submissive Asian woman who say little and smiles. I realize in American culture anything that is not black is good. And it is more an exotic fetish thing. MEn like to feel powerful i guess. I just do not understand why everything is always about why white men don’t find black women attracive etc. It goes both ways. MOst black women are not attracted to white men either

deedee18's avatar

@proXXi It isn’t this way most of the time. Black women not taking shit is out of arrogance. Because i have witness and ave had it done to me. It is sometimes how a man approaces a woman. For some strange reason alot of men tend to approach black women different.I guess it is te media, but not all black women r hoes u know. n tht is not wat men do no understand. i disagree wit u on tht

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