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If a person is on disability, can this individual make additional monies?

Asked by BoBo1946 (15325points) January 11th, 2010

Have a friend that is collecting disability payment and this person is having problems making ends meet! Can this person work and make additional monies to support his family without affecting his disability payment?

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poisonedantidote's avatar

in the UK you can work 16 hours a week and still collect disability, here in spain its the same, 16 hours. not sure in the states though. probably best to consult with the welfare people and see what they say.

BoBo1946's avatar

@poisonedantidote thank you, but this person lives in the USA!

poisonedantidote's avatar

i would go to the welfare office, and tell them that you are fit enough to do some kind of office work part time or something, but that that you cant do a full time physical job. take all the doctors notes to prove your disability and any other papers you may need and see what they say about it.

chances are you will have to go to the welfare office anyway to declare you have a part time job. if it is ok, and you just start working without informing them you could possibly still lose the disability payment if they find out while you are clearing things up.

(’‘you’’ meaning your friend)

EDIT:

it could also vary from state to state, not sure. what state are we talking about here? ill see if i can get some info on it.

BoBo1946's avatar

@poisonedantidote cool…will check into it!

poisonedantidote's avatar

while looking at the social security act i found this:

Continuing Eligibility for Benefits

In most cases, you will continue to receive benefits as long as you are disabled. However, there are certain circumstances that may change your continuing eligibility for disability benefits.

For example:

Your health may improve to the point where you are no longer disabled.

You would like to go back to work rather than depend on your disability benefits.

The law requires that Social Security reviews your case from time to time to verify that you are still disabled.

Social Security will tell you when it is time to review your case, and will keep you informed about your benefit status.

You also should be aware that you are responsible for letting Social Security know if your health improves or you go back to work.

some info last valid in 2007

official USA social security info regarding working while disabled

the USA social security act

EDIT:

if i was you, i would go in his place and ask anonymously on his behalf, the more i read on it the more it seems they are just itching to cut you off. not cool

XOIIO's avatar

Money not monies

BoBo1946's avatar

@XOIIO ugggggggggggggg geezzzzzzzzzzzz! apply for mod!

XOIIO's avatar

LOL I have… Still waiting for a response ;)

BoBo1946's avatar

not coming…not worth my time!

laureth's avatar

I have had friends try to live on disability payments. In every case, the payments were insufficient to make ends meet. In each case, they had to have some kind of under-the-table income in order to live (i.e., pay rent, heat, food). And if what they told me is true, if the authorities had learned of this extra income, they would have lost their disability payments – which would have sucked, because in no case was the “extra” income sufficient to cover all their needs either, but since they were disabled, they couldn’t really make any more than that above-the-table.

Your mileage may vary wildly, so check with your authorities. The plural of my anecdotes is not data, as the saying goes.

This situation reminds me of the way they trained boys in ancient Sparta. They were forbidden from stealing food, upon pain of lashings. Yet the diet that they fed the boys was so minimal, that in order to have enough strength and health for their training, they simply had to steal food – there were not enough calories in the diet otherwise. The sneaky boys learned to steal food on the down low, so they weren’t caught – and this stealth is exactly what they needed to become excellent Spartan soldiers. And that was part of the training – it was exactly what their leaders hoped they’d do.

The parallel fails, though, when I try to figure out exactly what The System is trying to teach disabled people by paying them not-quite-enough to live on. Do they want them to learn to be sneaky like Spartan boys? Or is this the way that some conservatives (who think that any kind of public dole, be it unemployment, welfare, or disability, makes people lazy) try to ensure a fit, athletic, hard-working and clever disabled population?

john65pennington's avatar

Paying someone “under the table” is income tax evasion” and once discovered, the IRS will make an arrest. i understand the question and i have been there myself. i could not work any extra jobs, so my wife went back to work part time as a nurse. there are other ways to earn money legally.

laureth's avatar

Exactly. If you have a wife or a family who are willing to help. Not everyone does, sadly.

It is very much a crime, no doubt about it! However, when faced with the choice between committing a crime and not eating/not having shelter, I wonder how many people would opt for the crime.

BoBo1946's avatar

@john65pennington not talking about “paying under the table!” legally, can you make extra monies on disability. Some say yes, some say no…tried to read the goverment site info, but could not find a definitive answer.

Dan_DeColumna's avatar

You could always pick up smalltime gigs. For example, I ghostwrite to pick up some extra cash. Try sites like elance.com and freelance.com and others. Even craigslist offers the occasional legitimate ghostwriting job. You can do this if you have a reasonable control of the English language and are relatively intelligent. You can make quite a bit of money ghostwriting and it’s perfect if all you have is lots of time restricted to your rear end. I.E. disabled.

Just in case you don’t know, a ghostwriter is a professional writer who is paid to write books, articles, stories, reports, or other texts that are officially credited to another person. Celebrities, executives, and political leaders often hire ghostwriters to draft or edit autobiographies, magazine articles, or other written material. In music, ghostwriters are used in film score composition, as well as for writing songs and lyrics for popular music styles ranging from country to hip-hop. Of course ghostwriters are often hired for much less glamorous tasks. Writing the assembling instructions for a cabinet, fleshing out a business plan, writing an essay, or writing up the bylaws for the Creek County Ambulance Association based on a handful of loose notes and lots of back and forth with your contact are just some examples. Regardless, if you have the time and inclination, you could certainly supplement a living doing this.

Also, with rising copper prices, scrapping is becoming more lucrative. I know because I do it. Washers, dryers, vacuum cleaners, old silverware, crt tvs and monitors (the tv’s can be dangerous if you don’t know learn how first. If you want to know more, ask, and I’ll teach you how to do it safely), etc all have significant amounts of copper. For example, let’s say it takes 20 minutes (which is generous) to tear apart a tv and get $5—$10 worth of copper out. Was it worth it? Well, depending on whether or not you can spot enough junk to scrap, you’re getting paid $15 to $30 an hour to turn a socket wrench. I know some disabled people would have difficulty with this one, but I don’t know what variety of disability this person has, so I included it anyway. Also, when you bring it to a scrap yard, they weigh it and pay you. Cash. That’s it. There’s no record of the sale, so there’s no requirement for any reporting of the income. Unless you feel the government deserves a portion of that. Regardless, that’s your prerogative.

Also, dumpster diving can make survival and even flourishing possible where starvation would have been the only option. Before you judge, I myself have recovered thousands, if not tens of thousands, of dollars worth of goods from dumpsters just in the last 6 months. According to the Supreme Court, dumpster diving is not illegal. Just don’t trespass on private property and don’t be stupid or leave a mess. Here’s a site that will give you a good intro: www.dumpsterworld.com

I have my own apartment and I live by myself. I have so much food, I give it away to the ambulance company I volunteer for and I put on dinners for my friends just to use it all. I manage to go to my EMT classes at least twice a week and I have heat, electric, and other basic necessities in more than sufficient quantities. I also go out to eat about once a week. I do NOT receive any variety of government aid, welfare or otherwise.

Here’s the kicker: I work about 15 hours a week at minimum wage. That’s about $350 after taxes. That’s the only official job I have. I manage all that because of the ghostwriting and the scrapping and the dumpster diving, so don’t dismiss it out of hand. It’s a life saver and things like that can be the difference between being comfortable and smug at your own cleverness and starvation.

Any questions, just ask,
-Dan

BoBo1946's avatar

wow Dan…that is so creative! Never “in a million years” would have thought of such clever ways to make money.

Writing is not my forta..at all.

Thank you for the good info…

Dan_DeColumna's avatar

No problem BoBo, my pleasure.
-Dan

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