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NSFW Does having the word "porn" in the question make it not safe for work no matter what the question is about?

Asked by wundayatta (58349 points ) July 30th, 2010

For example, if someone asked, “what rhymes with porn,” would that be automatically NSFW? Or something like “why is porn proliferating so widely on the internet?” Or “how can we get porn off the internet?

It disturbs me that a question about porn—a serious question, not a social question—would be considered not safe for work. It disturbs me that any question related to porn, ipso facto, should be considered not a serious question.

Where does this attitude come from? Is it part of the puerile, seventh grade boy mentality that most Americans seem to have about sex? What are people afraid of? Why do some people believe that the mere mention of porn make something not safe for work?

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janbb's avatar

Why didn’t you post this without the NSFW and see what reactions you got? I don’t see it as a requirement; as you say, one can discuss the issues surrounding porn without being puerile.

El_Cadejo's avatar

“It disturbs me that a question about porn—a serious question, not a social question—would be considered not safe for work. It disturbs me that any question related to porn, ipso facto, should be considered not a serious question.”

Did you get modded for this or something?

does typing four little letters before a question really make that much of a difference too that you are so utterly disturbed over it?

Trillian's avatar

Maybe it isn’t so much the attitude about porn as it is the fact that it is not what the company is paying people to do. You go to work to earn money and make money for your company. Anything non productive is frowned upon, rightly so I might add, and porn falls under that category.
If you have the word porn on your computer screen at work, it’s going to be pretty obvious that you’re not engaged in anything work related, whether it is actual porn or a discussion about it.

janbb's avatar

@Trillian That makes sense. Probably all questions should have a “NSFW” designation then?

Trillian's avatar

@janbb I mean when you think about it, probably. Yeah.

jonsblond's avatar

NSFW is also for parents that have little ones in the house. My six year old daughter is learning to read, and if she glanced over my shoulder while I was fluthering and happened to see the word porn, I’d rather not tell her what that word means. Six year olds don’t need to learn about porn yet.

If I see an NSFW question, I know not to click on it when my daughter is near.

CMaz's avatar

Porn refers to nothing else but… PORN.

NSFW – When my car is dirty I like to porn it.

I gave my mother some flowers. She was so porn about it.

NeroCorvo's avatar

Porn:
Pornography or porn is the portrayal of explicit sexual subject matter for the purposes of sexual excitement and erotic satisfaction.

This is the definition. You cannot change what it means or represents to others just because you feel they should not be offended by it.

Words hold meaning and power. In this case you are not being censored. I have seen very sexually explicit questions posted and discussed on Fluther.

You are simply being asked to add a heads-up to the title so that those who might have parents, children or a boss nearby do not click. It is a common courtesy not a slam. In fact adding NSFW may actually encourage more views- it is human nature.

In part of this question you are asking why people have this “seventh grade boy mentality” about sex. This is a whole new topic. There have been social taboos relating to sex for thousands of years. Personally I have no problem with pornography but I respect that others might not feel the same way as I do and if I was to ask a question relating to pornography I see no harm in typing four letters at the beginning of the question as a heads-up.

Trillian's avatar

“Is it part of the puerile, seventh grade boy mentality that most Americans seem to have about sex? What are people afraid of?”
What is it about people that they have to defend their own points of view to the extent that they say that others who do not share their views have something wrong with them? There is a time and place for everything and the middle of the day during work is not the time to have a long discussion about porn. I enjoy sex, lord knows. Some of the things I’m into would probably cause coffee to snort out your noses if you knew about them. (If you were drinking coffee at the time) Because I don’t choose to have porn discussions at work or in certain company does not make me like and 7th grade boy, or a prude by any stretch. There are other, way more impotant things to talk about in my day. I see no need to go on about it ad nauseum.
Shit. Drop it and move on.

zenele's avatar

Waits with anticipation for nightfall – coffee in hand.

Trillian's avatar

@zenele You’re a funny man. Look at the funny man kids!

augustlan's avatar

Even if your intent is to have a strictly above-board discussion about porn, you can’t control how people will answer your question. It’s about porn. People are likely to go in directions that are distinctly NSFW. The NSFW warning doesn’t just pertain to your question, but the entire thread.

lapilofu's avatar

It really depends on where you work I think.

CMaz's avatar

@lapilofu – Best answer yet. If you worked in the porn industry. It would not matter. ;-)

YARNLADY's avatar

If people are looking at this from work, it is a simple courtesy to let them know when a question might not be appropriate, so they can skip it. Many work places allow some personal internet use, with restrictions.

HungryGuy's avatar

Puritannical Americans…

talljasperman's avatar

because a link inside might have pictures…or better worse animation

talljasperman's avatar

its only safe for work if you work in the porn industry

wundayatta's avatar

It’s just strange to me, because it was an analytical question about meaning. It had nothing to do with sex, but with the messages about sex that are hidden inside the explicit content. So I’m not talking about explicit content at all. I put it in the general section because I wanted a serious discussion and serious analysis. You put NSFW in and everyone thinks it’s about sex.

Yes, sex in the material in porn, but it isn’t the meaning of porn at all. This is content analysis, not film review.

I’m sure there are thousands of questions that don’t have anything about sex in the title, but they get pretty raunchy. In addition, I’ve seen many questions with NSFW in the title and there wasn’t anything at all titillating in it.

Here’s another question. What if I had said, “what are the hidden narratives in depictions of intimate activities?” Or in the depictions of human reproductive activities?

If those things are cool, then it is the use of the word “porn” that is the problem. That’s fine. It would be nice to have a list of words that require the NSFW, so if I don’t want to have that in front of my question, I’ll know what to avoid. I wonder if George Carlin would roll over in his grave?

jonsblond's avatar

It had nothing to do with sex, but with the messages about sex that are hidden inside the explicit content. So I’m not talking about explicit content at all.

What? Your question was about porn. Maybe you should have worded your question differently. That’s not the fault of the moderators, that’s yours.

Why are you so upset over 4 letters? Your frustration confuses me.

I have seen you say many times that a question does not belong to you once you post it, it belongs to the collective. If you are discussing sex, the collective will more than likely discuss things that are NSFW. otherwise, words that I don’t want my six year old daughter to read.

augustlan's avatar

@wundayatta It wouldn’t have been any different had you used “explicit adult films”, “X-rated movies”, or some other euphemism rather than “porn”. Questions that are likely to include or attract sexual content are intrinsically NSFW, no matter how they are worded.

wundayatta's avatar

@jonsblond The problem with the NSFW is that it gives people the wrong idea. I’m looking for serious analysis of the content, something which is very hard for people to do in this culture. The NSFW doesn’t help because it gives people the idea something prurient is going on. I don’t want that.

Well, that’s what I get for thinking fluther took it’s own seriousness seriously.

@jonsblond Yes, I did say that once you ask a question, it’s out of your hands. But fluther said that’s not right. They want to help people get the answers they want, so they set up this system of general and social questions. I was trying to follow the rules, but I guess the rules are far more opaque than I imagined.

Maybe I could get this question and the other two related to it removed. It is clear that I am in a minority of one here. I am going to stop following my own question, but it makes me very nervous to think it is hanging out here, completely off track with no one to try to get it on track except moderators who don’t understand it, anyway.

El_Cadejo's avatar

“The NSFW doesn’t help because it gives people the idea something prurient is going on.”
Something prurient is going on…. WE ARE DISCUSSING PORN…. Would you have this conversation with a child? No… exactly. NSFW

What is confusing about general and social? One you can joke in, one you cant. Just because you are in social doesnt mean you can go breaking the other rules applying to the site though.

“Maybe I could get this question and the other two related to it removed” hmmm thats funny cause in that other question you said i was wrong when i called you out on it and it was actually about your friend with his court situation. Guess i was right after all…..

“it makes me very nervous to think it is hanging out here, completely off track with no one to try to get it on track except moderators who don’t understand it, anyway.” <blank stares>

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