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Help me determine my carryforward NOL amount?

Asked by saservp (291points) February 17th, 2011

I’m not a tax expert (is anyone? :P) but I have what I think is a simple question. I just did my taxes and ended up this year with an overall loss. I was curious though how much my carryforward net operating loss is for next year. I’ll use a simplified example with fake numbers to see if I can make my point.

1. I made 10k in W2s from a 9–5 job.
2. As a private consultant my net “profit” was negative 20k (shown on schedule c).
3. Therefore my overall AGI for the whole year is -10k.

My question is is my carryforward NOL for next year determined from number 2 or number 3 above?
I.E. Is my carryforward NOL taken from my negative AGI or from my negative Schedule C income (loss).

Hope that makes sense. And if nobody knows the answer that’s OK too! :P

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bkcunningham's avatar

http://www.irs.gov/publications/p536/ar02.html#en_US_publink1000177428
From the IRS
How To Figure an NOL Carryover
If your NOL is more than your taxable income for the year to which you carry it (figured before deducting the NOL), you may have an NOL carryover. You must make certain modifications to your taxable income to determine how much NOL you will use up in that year and how much you can carry over to the next tax year. Your carryover is the excess of your NOL deduction over your modified taxable income for the carryback or carryforward year. If your NOL deduction includes more than one NOL, apply the NOLs against your modified taxable income in the same order in which you incurred them, starting with the earliest.

Modified taxable income. Your modified taxable income is your taxable income figured with the following changes.
You cannot claim an NOL deduction for the NOL carryover you are figuring or for any later NOL.

You cannot claim a deduction for capital losses in excess of your capital gains. Also, you must increase your taxable income by the amount of any section 1202 exclusion claimed on Schedule D (Form 1040).

You cannot claim the domestic production activities deduction.

You cannot claim a deduction for your exemptions for yourself, your spouse, or dependents.

You must figure any item affected by the amount of your adjusted gross income after making the changes in (1), (2), and (3), above, and certain other changes to your adjusted gross income that result from (1), (2), and (3). This includes income and deduction items used to figure adjusted gross income (for example, IRA deductions), as well as certain itemized deductions. To figure a charitable contribution deduction, do not include deductions for NOL carrybacks in the change in (1) but do include deductions for NOL carryforwards from tax years before the NOL year.

Your taxable income as modified cannot be less than zero.

saservp's avatar

Thanks I read that too but didn’t understand it

bkcunningham's avatar

Your carryover is the excess of your NOL deduction over your modified taxable income for the carryforward year.

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