Why does it matter that the "hotsauce mom" is LDS?
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February 24th, 2011
I have noticed this before, not just in this situation, but what does her religion have to do anything? It doesn’t make it any better or any worse… She’s still a mom that was out of line. Why does her religion have to be all over the headlines?
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LDS is still rather exotic in the American vernacular.
People love a mysterious entity to direct their ire towards when booing the individual gets old.
The religious seem to be more inclined to be in favor of corporal punishment (not to be confused with physical abuse, which some might argue it is abusive period to hit a child). I realize we are talking about hot sauce, recently one of my Christian friends talked about using soap in her kids mouth because she talked back, she said it was from the bible, since words come out of our mouths, supposedly best to punish the mouth. The US bible belt is primarily where corporal punishment is legal in public school, because of Christianities seeming support of hitting children as a way to discipline. I have never heard any comment from the LDS church on the topic, so I do not have a specific inclination to think they are in favor of it. I’m guessing AP releases come through the northeast states? Not sure how the associated press works, and those people are more likely to make a judgment associating religion with physical punishment.
People are under the very mistaken impression that people who have a religion are supposed to be somehow more virtuous when, in fact, it usually turns out to be quite the opposite.
It’s an effort to drive a process called “normalization,” whereby the public is made to believe the unusual (or bad) to be commonplace (or less bad). In the case of the ”...And I’m a Mormon” ads, the message is, “Mormons are just like you… only Mormon.”
For that matter, what does her age have anything to do with the story? We may as well generalize or imply that mothers in their mid-30s are likely to be abusive and have weird ideas of punishment and discipline.
I wouldn’t make a claim that hypocrisy is any kind of normal behavior among those who claim to be Christian, Mormon or of any other faith without some pretty strong evidence to back up that statement.
@JLeslie However, it is one of the top states for snakepit schools like Cross Creek Manor.
@MyNewtBoobs What is this Cross Creek Manor? I have a few friends who are Mormon and I think they are wonderful, so I have no negative personal experience with Mormons.
@JLeslie It’s a “residental treatment facility” for “troubled teens”. Part of WWASP (also based in Utah), the schools take your money (to the tune of at least 80K a year) and procede to use light torture tactics to brainwash and break down children until they behave. Utah’s vast amount of uninhabited land and unhosiptible environment makes it perfect for making sure kids won’t run away, and if they do, that they’ll die before they get help or reveal anything.
@MyNewtBoobs Oy. Is it LDS? On your link I did not see it mention that it was unless I skimmed too fast.
Ugh. It doesn’t matter at all what religion this woman belongs to. She still abused her child…simple as that.
@JLeslie No, just Utah – it has nothing to do with LDS. I’m just saying that if Utah does outlaw corporal punishment, then even still, a LOT goes on there.
@MyNewtBoobs I see. I would assume it is outlawed in public schools, private can probably do what they want. And, corporal punishment is actually legal in all 50 states by a caregiver. If those kids are in boarding scool, I guess someone there has some sort of guardianship or legal responsibility for the children.
@phaedryx yes. That is so logical. Thank you.
LDS has a history of horrific child abuse.
I haven’t heard that before @BarnacleBill . I grew up with a large community of Mormons and that is the first I’ve ever heard that they are horrific child abusers. I always admired their family values. Where can I read about their history of horrific child abuse?
@bkcunningham Because this is the issue with exclusive, isolated societies – you can’t get any info on them, good or bad.
@BarnacleBill Do you have any sources for those of us who just have nothing better to do tonight that read up on child abuse (and maybe Anglo-Norman women, for some of us…)?
Let me find the links. I worked with a guy online in a suicide prevention group who had PTSD from abuse as a kid, and he sent me a lot of links.
There seems to be different levels or sects of Mormonism, we can’t put them all in one pot. I think the more isolated the community the more chance for abuse or harsh punishment to be covered up, even if the community doesn’t sanction it, worse of course when they do. I have heard reports of the Amish also, probably can find it among other groups that are fairly closed societies. I don’t think in these groups it is the majority doing these horrid things, probably a very small group, possibly the same as the average population. The big thing is the systematic cover up I think. The tricky part regarding the hot sauce is many people think it is just fine, appropriate and acceptable punishment.
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