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Charlie Sheen: arrogant spoiled brat or independent pace setter?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (26879points) March 5th, 2011

There is a lot to be said of Charlie Sheen these days but is he a pace setter, someone who figures you can’t take it with you so live large and enjoy it now or is he just another example of the spoiled entitled Hollywood royalty that feels he is entitled and can do no wrong?

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filmfann's avatar

Well, he has nothing on his son Charlie.

SamIAm's avatar

arrogant pace setting spoiled brat?

JmacOroni's avatar

Door #3. Addict. Doesnt’ take money, Hollywood, or fame to make an addict behave irrationally.

MyNewtBoobs's avatar

“Brat” seems such a nice thing to call someone who repeatedly beats up and threatens to kill the women he’s involved with.

jonsblond's avatar

Anyone that can make Mel Gibson and Gary Busey look like saints is f*&kin’ nuts.

john65pennington's avatar

He is a prime example of the Hollywood life. Too much, too soon and its all gone to his head.

He is not a trend setter by any means. Just look at all the Hollywood stars and entertainers that are on drugs and alcohol.

He is not a trend setter, he is just a follower in the others footsteps and now he has to pay the price.

MyNewtBoobs's avatar

I will, however, say this – I don’t think he’s a “trend setter” or a “bad boy” or a “hero”, but I do think this latest debacle of his is really entertaining. I don’t condone his behavior, I’m simply amused by what happens, save for the violence.

Ladymia69's avatar

Pathetic waste of flesh who isn’t worth your interest.

filmfann's avatar

edit: glad you changed Martin to Charlie, but now I look like an idiot.

Dr_Dredd's avatar

I think he’s bipolar, or at the very least has substance-induced bipolar symptoms.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@filmfann Sorry, they would not let me get back to it to show I edited it and that you were not wrong. It was totally my brain fart.

Let the record show @filmfann was correct, and the mistake was mine. Thanks @filmfann

Bellatrix's avatar

A person with mental health issues (perhaps brought on by his addictions) who needs help and time out of the spotlight.

rooeytoo's avatar

Just another addict, but one who commands the attention of the populace. I am astounded by the air time he receives on news channels. I find him just as obnoxious as an average drunk or druggie and no more interesting.

seazen's avatar

Arrogant, spoiled, independant (his own) pace-setting brat who needs serious rehab.

One day, soon I imagine, once his kids are online, he will cry and be saddened by his stupidity and selfishness.

MyNewtBoobs's avatar

@seazen I have a theory that the day my generation has kids that get online is the day the internet stops being fun, and starts being sad (and a little bit creepy).

seazen's avatar

Two things I try to keep in mind online all the time: you’re never sorry for something not said, and don’t write something you wouldn’t let your mother read.

No, I do not always abide by this rule. I wish I did.

12Oaks's avatar

Irrelevant actor. Am proud to say I never saw his TV show. But will happily admit I did like them baseball movies he did. Not sure what else he was in.

jca's avatar

Trendsetter, no. Brat, maybe. Substance abuser, yes. Mentally ill, probably. Getting way too much attention that hopefully will end soon, yes. Fool who let a good job go, definitely.

Kardamom's avatar

He’s a guy, who as a kid, got a lot of lucky breaks in the acting world because of who his father was. Simple nepotism. He didn’t go to drama school or have any particular passion for acting. He was the right son of a famous actor at the right time. There are plenty of people, who actually did go to drama school and have a lot of talent, that didn’t get to be on Two and a Half Men, because they didn’t have the right connections. It’s a good show, but a lot of it has to do with the writing. I think Jon Cryer is a much better actor, but the character that Charlie Sheen plays on that show, could be done by all sorts of people that would be merely as good, and some much better. It’s too bad they didn’t cast Judd Nelson in that show, way back at the beginning. The show would have been just as good and they wouldn’t be having all these problems right now. Judd Nelson looks similar and was very funny when he starred opposite Brooke Shields on Suddenly Susan, and he’s a popular Brat Packer. Grant Show would have been a good choice too.

So Charlie Sheen got a bunch of breaks, got lucky to have been cast on a hit show, was paid millions of dollars, but what he lacked was common sense, compassion, gratefulness and a sense of pride in working hard and doing a good job. He doesn’t have any decent family values, hence the wife beating and hooker-mongering. You don’t have to be an actor to have these problems, but all the money just makes these shitty personality traits easier to pull off (in a much bigger, more public manner) without getting in very much trouble. The same dude, who did these kinds of things, that wasn’t an actor in the public eye, would probably be in prison.

So no, he’s not a trendsetter. He’s just a big selfish douche-bag. There’s plenty of selfish douche-bags in the world (you probably have one or two as co-workers or possibly as an ex-husband or boyfriend), but when you have the kind of money that Charlie Sheen has, you can cause a lot of damage quickly and in a big dramatic manner before someone puts a stop to your crap.

I really feel sorry for his kids (and he has a bunch of them) because they have to bear the embarassment and sorrow of all of this, while at the same time having to worry that their daddy might be locked up in prison or might actually die or might actually try to kill one of their mothers. And just like Charlie (who was lucky to be associated with his talented father) these poor kids will always be associated with their famous, but F**ked up father. That’s not exactly the kind of association that people want.

I heard that the producers of TAAHM have been talking to John Stamos, to possibly cast him as a different character, so they could continue the show. I think that’s a fine idea. They could change the name (since Angus T. Jones is no longer little) to something like “Men: All Grown Up” and then have the premise change a little bit. Example: Charlie has died in a hilarious hooker-laden accident and one of Evelyn’s long lost rich cousins has a son (John Stamos) who wants to buy Charlie’s house. Since they’re all family, somehow, Alan convinces the new owner to keep him on as a tenant. The character of John Stamos has to be very different (but very hilarious) than Charlie’s for this to work, but I think it can work as long as they continue to employ good writers. Maybe John Stamos’s character is a very eccentric (kind of crazy, has lots of money but doesn’t care about money or even know how to manage it, or even know how much he has, maybe he’s even gay) but he’s lots of fun, loves Alan and Jake (unlike Charlie’s character) and Alan sort of becomes the caretaker, while Jake takes advantage of all of this.

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