If someone puts a sign in my yard, without my permission, does that sign become my property to do with what I wish?
Woke up this morning and found that someone had put a sign in my yard endorsing a Republican candidate, Larry Alley, for the Kansas House. I looked him up. He’s proud to say he’s NRA approved.
I could just take the sign out, but I’d rather make my feelings known by spray painting “NO” or something on the sign and leaving it.
Can I do that?
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Sure, particularly if they did not ask your permission before planting it.Call it a version of Eminent Domain.
Call his headquarters to ask someone to remove the sign, also. It’s their follow-up job and usually forgotten.
You can do what you want with it.
I have a better idea.
Find out who did it, then report him to the cops for
1. trespassing
2. vandalism
3. libel and slander for making it seem as if planted the sign yourself and that you support that candidate
If someone put the sign there without permission, it’s a good bet that they either did it to piss you off, or they were paid to distribute the things, but could care less about the candidate. I suppose there is the 3rd possibility. It might just be a simple mistake.
I would go with the big red circle with a line through it.
I bet they come and remove the sign right quick.
Another thought would be bullet hole stickers over most of the candidates name.
Yep. That too @rojo.
Isn’t there a portion of my lot that actually belongs to the city?
Yes you can do what you wish with the sign.
The big red circle/slash is a nice touch, if you don’t know anyone with a shotgun that can blow the center out of it. You could probably mimic the shotgun effect with an ice pick, and vent a lot of frustration at the same time.
:)
I would do as @rojo suggested, and deface the sign to show my disapproval of the candidate. And call the local campaign office and threaten small claims court for damages to your yard.
Once it has been placed on your property, it is yours to do with as you wish.
@Dutchess_III A city easement is not ownership. And city property, if it is city property, is not appropriate for endorsement of any candidate.
Gimme a sign?
Hit me baby one more ti…never mind
There is usually a setback easement around the perimeter and possibly utility easements.
Most cities have something like this on the books: ”.........of the City’s Code of Ordinances reads as follows:
“No person shall post up, or affix in any manner, any bill, placard, advertisement or notice, either written or printed, upon any fence, traffic control signal, litter receptacle, bridge, wall, post, pole or upon any part of any building in said city, without the previous consent of the occupants thereof; or, if there be no occupants, without the previous consent of the owners, thereof; nor upon any building, sidewalk, curbstone, tree, fence, or post belonging to said city without consent of the director of the department of public works, nor upon any pole belonging to any telegraph, telephone or electric lighting company, without the previous consent of such company. Every person who shall violate any of the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be punished by a fine of not more than one hundred dollars ($100.00) for each day that the violation shall continue and shall be required to abate the violation.”
If yours has it, you could turn them in and see if the city would actually fine them. Take a pic and send it in.
Let’s see, @rojo. Hm. That’s $36,500 a year! Who needs to work?!
I shot an email to my lawyer. :D
I never heard of a candidate putting a sign up on private property without permission from the owner of the property. Maybe the person got your house number mixed up with a person he did have permission from.
You could deface the sign but it sounds kind of petty to me. I would just take the sign down and toss it in the garbage. If I got upset at my neighbors with their signs promoting their Democrat Representatives here in New York I would be angry all the time.
to each his own I guess…... Sometimes you got to pick your battles and I can think of worse things to get pissed about than this
True Fluther style. Blowing things out of proportion. Now this suddenly turned into a beef with my neighbors! I am not upset with my neighbors in any way, shape or form. I don’t care what signs they have in their yard. The only time I got upset with a neighbor was when their dogs got loose, came to our house and attacked us and our dogs.
I don’t think it would be petty. It would be a form of advertising for the Democrats.
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answers like deface the sign with red markers, shooting a hole through it, pressing charges against the candidate, reporting it to the police or suing the City is not “blowing things out of proportion”?
I used the angry with neighbors example as an example of ME getting angry if the same thing happened to me not you. I don’t even know you or your neighbors.
I would write NO, on it, or put the big red circle with the line.
I wouldn’t shoot a hole through it (I don’t have a gun,)
I didn’t suggest reporting it to the police
and no one suggested I sue the city.
So stop.
Well, I don’t see the comparison @BeenThereSaidThat. The neighbors had absolutely nothing to do with it.
@Dutchess_III forget it. You’re not understanding what I’m getting at. have a good day, I’m done.
My lawyer found it quite interesting. She suggested I contact Ed Trimmer, the Democratic nominee. She said he’d know the laws concerning this kind of thing. So I sent him a message on fb. He might be able to find a way to use it against Alley. :D
No, I’m not getting what you’re saying @BeenThereSaidThat. This has nothing to do with neighbors. It has to do with someone illegally trespassing onto my property and putting up a sign endorsing something I don’t endorse.
Since you’re a republican and, a rabid protector of the CONSTITUTION and our CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, and mine have been VIOLATED, I would think you would be concerned with this as well. Perhaps even more than me, @BeenThereSaidThat.
I’ve had signs stolen from my yard, but never placed there without my permission.
I notice in Illinois that they are putting political signs on public property or right-of way. Anyone know if that’s legal? I find it annoying, and there seems like there should be a reason that it wasn’t common practice before now.
Wow, a constitutional violation! And you’re not blowing it out of proportion?
@Jaxk I was making fun of how the republicans act.
They make dandy paintball targets. Just sayin’
Yeah, I’d just put a big circle+slash sign over it. They put it there to advertise their candidate, make it have the opposite effect.
Put another sign next to it: “If you vote for this asshole, you vote for Hitler.”
It’s a Sign O the Times, Prince the Purple Poser left it.
I like that @ragingloli!
I did some checking. No reason not to spray paint on it. If someone gets upset I’ll just have them arrested for trespassing!
Posted this to my fb page:
MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS HAVE BEEN VIOLATED!!!!
!!!BY A REPUBLICAN!!!
SOME LONG HAIRED HIPPIE TYPE PINKO COMMUNIST PUT A SIGN IN MY YARD!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WITHOUT MY PERMISSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!
ENDORSED A REPUBLICAN CANDEDATE FOR THE HOUSE, WHO I DO NOT LIKE!!!!!
I DID SOME!!! CHECKIN ON THE GUY!!!
THIS!!! IS RIGHT FROM HIS FACEBOOK PAGE!!!!!.....!!
“Proud to be endorsed by the National Rifle Association!! Share this with your freedom loving friends!!”
I would stand on my constitutional right to shoot the sign with my assault rifle, but I don’t have one. But I DO have spray paint. Mwahaha!
!!!LIKE AND SHARE IF YOU LOVE THE CONSTITUTION AND NOW IT IS UNDER ATACK BY THE REPUBLICANS AND THIS IS PROOF!!!!!
**********************************************Thanks Obama*******************************
@Dutchess_III I don’t believe we have a constitutional right to use spray paint. I think if the framers had wanted people to have the right to keep and use spray paint they would have mentioned it specifically. That is more of a states right than an individual one.
LOL! Hey! My property, my sign! As long as I don’t kill someone with my sign I can do what I want with it!
Where in the Constitution does it say you have a right to not have people put signs in your yard without your consent?
What if they just reach over the property line without stepping into you yard?
Kinda like football. Just have to break the plane, I would assume! But where it’s placed…they had to have come about 5 steps in the yard to place it.
@rojo
Exactly! Besides, if your yard isn’t fenced in then you’re just asking for people to “trespass”.
What difference does a fence make?
I don’t really care if people “trespass.” Kids walk through the yard all the time. But it was pretty damned presumptuous to put a sign like that in the yard in the yard of someone you don’t know.
You need an automated gun turret phalanx with motion sensors that shoot anything that moves.
Oh wait! I found it:
Amendment 2a
A well supplied Artistic Community, being necessary to the expressive integrity of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Spray Paint, shall not be infringed.
What difference does a fence make? Security, that’s what difference. That’s why I have a 15 foot high fence topped with razor wire with armed guards placed at strategic points around my perimeter.
@Darth_Algar No, that would be a sign saying ”Targets Trespassers Welcome”.
LOL! I’m not going to put a 15 foot high fence around my front yard!
Well then I guess you’re just going to have to deal with trespassers.
Well, that’s fine. They put shit like that in my yard, I’ll turn it around on them and they can just deal with THAT.
Here’s what I’m gonna do. Draw the red circle, put the sign closer to the house, then put a “No Trespassing” sign right next to it! :D
@Dutchess_III I think those exclamation marks are infringing my constitutional right to a stress-free Fluther.
BITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If what you posted here is what you said you put on your fb page, you might want to correct the spelling of the word CANDIDATE. The only E in the word comes at the end :)
I figure they just made a mistake. No candidate would risk having a sign mistreated or defaced. Just remove it and forget about it.
After the election, the frames of the rigid signs fit in cardboard and also make great targets
Dutchess I’m just wondering where “LONG HAIRED HIPPIE TYPE PINKO COMMUNIST…” came from??
Sounds like it came from the 60s :)
@Adagio @Buttonstc
…...I said, “Would you believe this man has gone as far
As tearing Wallace stickers off the bumpers of cars.
And he voted for George McGovern for President.”
“Well, he’s a friend of them long haired, hippy-type, pinko fags!
I betchya he’s even got a commie flag
tacked up on the wall inside of his garage.”
From the 1973 song Uneasy Rider by The Charlie Daniels Band
Is the sign is corrugated plastic? If so, know that with a little paint thinner, some stencils and a broad marker you can probably change it’s message however you like. Personally, I probably wouldn’t feel comfortable with more than a PG rating? :)
For your listening pleasure!. It’s a funny song.
The misspellings were deliberate @Buttonstc, as was the hysterical tone of the message. I had to edit a few times so the bad spelling wasn’t SO obvious, and, apparently, it worked!
LOL! That’s what I named the file I put the pictures of the sign in!
Well, I just can’t bring myself to be a tacky redneck, and deface the other sign and put up a no trespassing sign in my yard. What I DID do, though, is go to the Democrats headquarters in town and get a big ole sign endorsing Trimmer, the democratic candidate. I replaced Alleys sign with a sign twice as big.
I probably wouldn’t have done it otherwise.
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