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Should Jaycee Dugard be given a hefty disability income for the rest of her life, being that she is supposed to be damaged goods now?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (26821points) January 21st, 2015

Popular pundits say any minor who has sexual contact or a sexual relationship either being entered willingly, by force, or guile makes the minor damaged good, as being psychologically messed up. Seeing what Dugard had to endure from age 11 until her rescue would not she qualify for being ”un-fixable”, and thus in need of lifetime state income?

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chyna's avatar

I would think labeling her or any other person that has gone through something similar as damaged goods or un-fixable would just reinforce that fallacy. I read her book and she seems very determined to live her life as normal as possible and to let her kids grow up as normal as possible. Of course they are going through counseling and may have to for life, but they need to be encouraged to go out and get jobs and be a part of society. If they get disability income, they may not feel the need to work.

josie's avatar

I know several guys who lost arms, legs, dicks and parts of their brains and nobody knows their name. Not minimizing her plight, but if she gets a cut of the taxpayers efforts, it shouldn’t be more than theirs.

jca's avatar

I saw her interview on a nighttime news show (Diane Sawyer? 20/20?). I saw the graphic portrayal of what she went through, and heard her tell what it was like as a 9 year old, looking up at the moon in this tarp covered enclosure, thinking that her mother was somewhere looking at the same moon. She would have pets as companions and the pets would disappear. Then the rapes by that nasty, sick motherfucker started and she became pregnant by him several times, as not much more than a child. She lived worse than most people keep their dogs, living in this tarp covered outdoor enclosure with a porta-potty and extension cords.

The book probably gave her a little income with residuals. I don’t think any disability income is “hefty.” I think it’s probably enough to get by on with very little to spare. It’s not like she had the ability to sue anybody, unless she sued the California Department of Parole, for not doing their jobs properly and checking out the premises on their home visits of their parolee or probationer, I forgot which. Other than that, who could she sue? Not the criminal and his wife, because they’re obviously in jail now without income. So if her only income is Social Security, it’s definitely not hefty.

I feel that if she qualifies for it, which she probably does, then of course she should get it. Knowing what I know about that type of income, it’s probably less than 1k a month. That in itself is not enough to live on.

CWOTUS's avatar

Granted what happened to her was horrible, but why should that provide her with disability income just because it happened?

If she is, in fact, disabled, cannot hold a job, form relationships, trust anyone, etc. and certainly if she needs to be institutionalized because she just can’t live as a free person on her own, then some compassion and support is definitely called for. (Well, compassion is always called for, isn’t it?) But why don’t we see how it goes, first?

zenvelo's avatar

She’s not getting disability because of what happened as much as she is getting compensated from Victim Funds and from State and County liability for ignoring her plight when there were investigations.

filmfann's avatar

She is getting money due to State and local police incompetence in not discovering her captivity.

and fuck anyone who doesn’t think she deserves it

Darth_Algar's avatar

Should she? I don’t know. Has she been ruled to be disabled?

And no, a disability income is not “hefty”. It’s barely enough to survive on.

Coloma's avatar

She is a remarkable and resilient women and, she was awarded 20 million for police negligence so she is fine. She can just enjoy life, continue her healing work and enjoy her family,. She deserves every happy moment she can get.

jca's avatar

Being robbed of your childhood and 20 years of your life is unimaginable. I agree with @Coloma and @filmfann – she deserves whatever she can get, in my opinion. I hope she finds happiness.

Coloma's avatar

I’d add as well that the police/parole people were beyond bumbling in their work. This guy had prior rape and kidnapping charges for assaulting a 14 yr. old girl back in like 1972 and parole officers visited his home over SIXTY times they never checked out all the outbuildings in his backyard. Amazing!

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@josie I know several guys who lost arms, legs, dicks and parts of their brains and nobody knows their name. Not minimizing her plight, but if she gets a cut of the taxpayers efforts, it shouldn’t be more than theirs.
In a perfect or logical world, what you said would be very true. We, however, live on a world where emotion often short circuit logic. Because of societies aversion to men like Phillip Garrido the path of least resistance is to say an experience e like hers, even if were only a few days would be much more traumatizing than someone who spent 15 months and 6 days in the jungles of Vietnam. To believe she is irreparably impaired would help in making the perpetrator a bigger monster; certainly good on the stomp in an election year when you can claim to be tough on crime.

@CWOTUS Granted what happened to her was horrible, but why should that provide her with disability income just because it happened?
Read the aforementioned text: ”Then the rapes by that nasty, sick motherfucker started and she became pregnant by him several times, as not much more than a child.”. That is the sentiment of many, she suffered needlessly because the parole officers did not do their job allowing Garrido to gratify himself with her a decade and more. You can’t punish him much more, unless you kill him, which in any case, you are not getting any cash out of him. It is not as much as it happened but by whom…..same as Amanda Berry, Gina DeJesus, and Michelle Knight, who suffered similar but different circumstances at the hands of Ariel Castro.

@Darth_Algar And no, a disability income is not “hefty”. It’s barely enough to survive on.
I know it isn’t, but there are people who believe an exception should be made in her case and (and the other three) she get more, because of what she endured and the belief that because of such, she can never have a normal live, however that can be quantified. In short, whatever that guy is getting with a blown out hip, she should get like 10 to 20 times more.

josie's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central
In that case, she shouldn’t get a nickel.

Coloma's avatar

Believes what?

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