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Is it totally crazy to you that at least once a week, here in the US, there's a mass shooting?

Asked by jca (36062points) December 3rd, 2015

It seems there are so many mass shootings now that it’s hard to keep track of who, what, why, how many dead, motive, etc.

I saw a cartoon on FB, I think posted by comedian Bill Maher, that was of the Planned Parenthood shooter and it said something about the latest shooting being before his 15 minutes of fame was up.

There’s a map on NY Times that I will find and link later, that shows all the mass shootings in the US and their locations. It’s probably interactive, probably where you can click on each dot and see details.

To me, it’s insane and crazy and with no end in sight. Some say if everyone had guns, there would be less casualties. I’m not sure how I feel about that. I can see the logic, but in reality, circumstances may not give a good outcome.

San Bernardino is the 355th mass shooting, they just said on the news. The headline says “Just another day in the U.S.”

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elbanditoroso's avatar

The daily / weekly shootings are music to the ears of the NRA and the politicians they have bought. Every one of these brings them more members.

Let’s not forget the gun industry, either. The more shootings the more they sell.

If I were a conspiracy nut, I might suggest that the NRA and the fun makers are behind these daily shootings, for purely economic reasons. (But I am not a conspiracy nut)

elbanditoroso's avatar

@LostInParadise – so to reach parity in mass murderers, we need more black shooters and perhaps some Asians as well?

Would increasing shooter diversity be a positive national goal?

SquirrelEStuff's avatar

Nope. The US loves war and violence. As far back as I can remember since I was born, the US has been at war.
We love our military more than the peace corp. Our most popular sports are football and UFC. We can see heads blown off on TV, but cant see a boob.
I think this John Lennon quote is pretty spot on…
“We live in a world where we have to hide to make love, while violence is practiced in broad daylight.”

LostInParadise's avatar

@elbanditoroso , I would suggest that the solution would be to teach white males to get over themselves, that there are no entitlements that come with their race and gender.

stanleybmanly's avatar

No, but we’ll get used to it, and will also adjust to the steady rise. People are so much like sheep and cattle that the most appalling of realities can far too readily devolve to mundane routine. If you think this just mere cynicism, just consider the healthcare situation in the wealthiest country on earth.

stanleybmanly's avatar

And once again, we already know the efficacy of everyone carrying a gun. The romantics refer to it as “the wid West”, and that reference wasn’t to the plants or soon to be extinct buffalo

ucme's avatar

Anywhere else in the world when these shootings first break, it would be assumed to be a terrorist attack, not in America though.
More or less sums it up for me.

ragingloli's avatar

To those living in civilised countries, yes.

Apparently_Im_The_Grumpy_One's avatar

If 10 of the 14 people were carrying weapons – at least one would have had the balls to fire back.. preventing any more murder.

The problem with gun laws isn’t the intentions of the supporters of them. The problem is that it is still a treatment of a symptom instead of the disease. People kill each other with cars on a regular basis. .but we don’t argue that removal of cars would be a good idea.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

@Apparently_Im_The_Grumpy_One If just one was packing then things may have turned out differently.

ibstubro's avatar

It’s more like once a day.

jca's avatar

We need cars but we don’t need the type of weapons that are available today. Something is wrong when we’ve had 355 mass shootings so far this year in the US but nothing like that in countries like Ireland, the UK, etc.

ibstubro's avatar

Nothing puts the Christ in Christmas quite like carrying concealed to a Health Department Christmas party!

If I felt like the world was so unsafe that I couldn’t leave the house without carrying a loaded gun, I’d just stay the fuck home and watch the 24/7 misery feed on CNN.

jca's avatar

I always like how gun advocates justify why we need automatic and semi-automatic weapons with their discombobulated logic.

Plonk's avatar

What does it mean to say all these mass murders are crazy? They are happening. We have to deal with it. We have to truly understand what enables these situations.

What is truly crazy is that this nation is in denial about what makes these situations possible because of their reverence for the Second Amendment. Of course, now that all the guns are out there already, they say there’s no hope of retrieving them, so the only thing to do is make gun ownership mandatory. Which, according to various public health researchers, is like mandating that everyones risk of dying via fire arms is doubled or tripled or something ridiculously high.

Other things that enable mass murder are prejudice and hatred that isolates other people, instead of trying to truly include them in communities. Americans are so insular in their communities. Anyone looks a slight bit different and they are not included. People who are separated and isolated are the ones most likely to lash out and try to hurt others as payback for all the pain they have endured.

Most people’s attitude is that they should control them. Most of us do not believe we have any responsibility for other people’s behavior. America does not believe we are a social system. The myth is that we are all individuals, who earn what we deserve.

This is a crock of you-know-what. People are all connected. We are social creatures. We must be inclusive if we want to stop mass murders. We can’t just blame it on them. That’s the Ostrich dance. Sticking your head in the sand because you don’t like what you are seeing. If you can’t see it, it can’t see you.

So saying that mass murders are crazy is like burying your head in the sand. It says there is nothing you can do to stop it. It’s crazy. You can’t stop crazy. But what if it isn’t crazy? What if there are reasons why people do these things? What if we can change society enough that these motivations no longer appear? Maybe we could stop mass shootings and bombings and such.

si3tech's avatar This is purported to be map of mass shootings in our country this year. What do you think?

Coloma's avatar

^^^ Looks like North Dakota is pretty safe, along with Wyoming. Must be because it is like 40 below there more than half the year, people are too cold to go shooting. In California it;s almost always a nice day for a mass shooting, lol Shit…there has to be some levity to this insanity ey”

trailsillustrated's avatar

We had a massacre in 1996 and they changed the gun laws in 12 days. 12. We are appalled and incredulous that America just accepts this type of loss of civilian life. Every time another one happens, it’s just amazing that they don’t do anything. I will never understand it. ( I live in Australia ).

ibstubro's avatar

Yes, @trailsillustrated, many many Americans are as appalled as you are.

The shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School should have been America’s watershed moment, and it just wasn’t. I have no rational explanation for that.

I regularly hear things like “4,000 rounds isn’t an unreasonable or notable amount of ammunition” by someone supporting the Second Amendment. How many of America’s founding fathers shot 4,000 rounds in a lifetime?
In 1776, the average life expectancy at birth for a U.S. citizen was 35 years. By 1900, life expectancy grew to 47.3 years.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

@ibstubro “How many of America’s founding fathers shot 4,000 rounds in a lifetime?”
Probably all of them. I’m pretty sure I shot that many before the age of 14.

stanleybmanly's avatar

I shouldn’t be so sure. 4000 rounds was a time consuming, tedious and extremely expensive proposition in the mid to late 1700s. Which gets back to the REAL reason 400, 000 Amercans have died from gunshots since 9/11. Today it’s cheap and easy.

ibstubro's avatar

Having given up your rapier at, what, 13 @ARE_you_kidding_me?

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