What can you teach me about Jill Stein?

I’m voting for her now that Sanders is done. What do you want to know?

The corporate media is not going to be giving her any coverage, and polls I have seen (when they even include her or Gary Johnson) range from somewhere between 4% and 7%.

Let’s start with that, I’ve heard many would-be Sanders voters are going with her now. What would you say are the key differences between the two? I don’t know much of anything yet, I’m trying to get a handle on her. Feel free to just point me to links!

Stein and Sanders are very similar position-wise, although Stein goes a bit further re:student loan debt (eliminating it rather than refinancing at lowest rates). Yeah, the left has been fighting the Clintons for decades, and this election cycle has opened the eyes of many who didn’t realize that the corporate Democratic party is the problem. Sanders tried to make a difference and save the party, but the resistance to his sanity was too great. Now, there are people who will be hard-pressed to vote Democrat again.

As for some links, I don’t have anything great, but I suppose there’s:

- her site and platform
– an interview with Cenk Uygur at TYT

I’ll see if I can find something better.

@DoNotKnowMuch Thanks do much! Watching the interview now.

She thinks she is entitled to your vote because of her ideas, but has not done anything to set up the ability to get bills passed.

One difference is that Stein wants a flat out ban on assault rifles.

She is marginalized as planned. I can vote for her because Clinton will take California with no problem.

Just so people outside of the U.S. understand how voting works here in the U.S…..

- a vote for Jill Stein == a vote for Jill Stein
– a vote for Gary Johnson == a vote for Gary Johnson
– a vote for Donald Trump == a vote for Donald Trump
– a vote for Hillary Clinton == a vote for Hillary Clinton
– not voting == not voting

I know it can get confusing.

apologies. Thought I was answering a text. I should probably be committed to a home.

She’s the only candidate that is less conservative than Richard Nixon. So if you want to vote for someone more progressive than Richard Nixon, she’s your only option.

This article from Salon is worth reading. I honestly think she has a shot.

She lost me at this.

^ Do you always base your voting decisions on a conservative spin article about a tweet? Do positions on the issues factor in at all? Is that _ really_ when she “lost you”?

Maybe, @DoNotKnowMuch, that was a tipping point for @johnpowell, after other things.
Do you always base your your nasty remarks to people on one item, rather than getting a back story?

Among the rampant Bernie supporters that I know, the supporters of Jill Stein are more of the “I’d rather take a stand so I’ll support her rather than do anything else because I’m busy Making A Point as opposed to assessing what may be best for the country right now and then diving in and working for greater change when it’s not a Right Now sort of thing”.

I am a big supporter of Bernie, but I’m not going to stamp my foot and take my vote home because I don’t get my way. I like Stein OK, but I’m not so impressed with her that I think she would be an effective president.

@canidmajor: “Maybe, @DoNotKnowMuch, that was a tipping point for @johnpowell, after other things.”

That’s what I was asking. Based on other conversations, it didn’t sound like Stein shared his politics at all. And there a theme that many on the left have been hearing this year, called “He lost me at” line. We have one here on fluther that does the “Bernie lost me because of his ‘Berniebro’ supporters”. But it turned out during further discussion that he had never even considered Bernie, didn’t know anything about his positions, and didn’t support them once he learned about them.

@canidmajor: “Do you always base your your nasty remarks to people on one item, rather than getting a back story?”

I’m not immune to being nasty on occasion, but I don’t think that really qualifies. Does it?

@canidmajor: “Among the rampant Bernie supporters that I know, the supporters of Jill Stein are more of the “I’d rather take a stand so I’ll support her rather than do anything else because I’m busy Making A Point as opposed to assessing what may be best for the country right now and then diving in and working for greater change when it’s not a Right Now sort of thing”.”

To clarify, my vote for Jill Stein will certainly not be just to make a point. Besides being the only vote I can make, I think it’s the most beneficial to this country.

@canidmajor: “I am a big supporter of Bernie, but I’m not going to stamp my foot and take my vote home because I don’t get my way.”

Voting for Stein is “stamping my foot and taking my vote home”? Very confusing. Who am I supposed to vote for? Trump? Johnson? What action would qualify as not stamping my foot and taking my vote home? Voting for a candidate (Clinton) that threatens the future of my children. I don’t have the luxury to contribute to the destruction of everything I value and sell out the future of this country and world because of a single election cycle.

Believe me, many of us are thinking about this – it’s not a tantrum. We’re not Democrats, and Clinton would be the last vote that we could ethically cast. This really matters.

@canidmajor The way I see things, Hillary is being rammed down our throats by a press that’s owned by companies that have billions to gain from her election. Her platform is so far to the right of where the American people are if you were to ask them about what they want. Her disapproval rating is 55%. If she wins, it won’t be the result of a massive turnout at the polls. It will be because people hate Trump more.

With low voter turnout, Congress is likely to maintain it’s Republican stranglehold if not get even more red. We’re facing another 4 years of a deadlocked government stalemate (and sadly, that really is the best case scenario with Clinton). So when you talk about what’s best for the country “right now,” the best we can do is promote a candidate with policies that match what the American people actually want. Someone that will drive a large turnout because they inspire people. A large turnout would allow the Democrats to take back Congress and make some significant positive changes.