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Aster's avatar

Who do you think will run against Trump? This will be fabulous entertainment !

Asked by Aster (20023points) July 13th, 2018

Will it be Liz Warren, Joe Biden, Killary Clinton or ?? What’s your guess?

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Dutchess_III's avatar

I seriously doubt Trump runs again.

ragingloli's avatar

Hopefully Bernie. And even more hopefully, Hillary decides to fuck off.

Aster's avatar

I’m hoping for Maxine Waters for a no lose dose of hysterical laughter that keeps on giving. lol
And yes; I spelled, “lose” correctly.

rebbel's avatar

Roseanne

ucme's avatar

Bill Cosby?

HighFunctioning's avatar

If Trump has a movement behind him for a second presidency, a bowel may be involved.

Dutchess_III's avatar

It’s a little concerning that someone might see a presidential election as an opportunity for comedic entertainment.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Like I said, you might want to look over your own link a little more carefully. It’s not saying exactly what you think it says.

And it’s not you I’m worried about.

gorillapaws's avatar

Bernie would crush Trump. “Establishment approved” Dems will get butchered. 2020 will be a lot more about how badly the Dem establishment tries to cheat the progressives (and if they succeed) than about anything Trump does or doesn’t do.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

Trump isn’t going to finish his term. His obesity is catching up to him. A year ago he was already unable to walk 700 yards, he needed a golf cart to follow the other G7 leaders.

The indictments are edging closer to him. Even republicans are rebuking his trade policies. He’s got maybe a year to go.

ragingloli's avatar

Maybe he is just a lazy slob.

Darth_Algar's avatar

Frankly, I hope Bernie, Hillary, Biden and all of them step the fuck aside already. The Boomers have had their run, time to graciously pass the fucking torch already.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@Darth_Algar Completely agree. Past time for new blood.

@ragingloli Agree.

Look we found common ground, we want them all gone! haha

LadyMarissa's avatar

I’m hoping Oprah will change her mind!!!
As long as it’s NOT Hillary, they’ve got my vote!!!

Aster's avatar

Yeah, that’s it. He’s just lazy. LOL ! I wonder what country he’ll be In tonight? lol

Dutchess_III's avatar

Oh, he has some golf resort that he owns there so the royalty will be hanging out with him there.

Aster's avatar

^^^^ Good. I hope he and Melania get some R&R.

rebbel's avatar

I hope she at least get some.

LadyMarissa's avatar

^^^^ She doesn’t want any…at least from him because she NEVER knows where it has been!!!

rebbel's avatar

Obviously (I hoped it was obvious) my wish was for Melania to get some R+R.
But I can see, looking at my wording, that there’s room for confusion :-)

MrGrimm888's avatar

I’m a fan of Warren. I would think Bernie would be too old in 2020…

stanleybmanly's avatar

It’s far enough away that it’s futile to guess.

Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

There have been rumors that Caroline Kennedy, daughter of John F. Kennedy, may run in the 2020 Presidential Election.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

I remember way back in time* when a president golfing was a bad thing.

* A few hours ago.

LadyMarissa's avatar

I hadn’t heard about Caroline Kennedy; but sounds like as feasible option to me. Of course, we are assuming that Trump will be willing to relinquish the office!!!

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

Caroline Kennedy

Please no. No more name-brand-only candidates. Gack. I assume she’s an OK person, but no.

The process has become like asking a 5-year old “who should be president?” and the kid says “Batman!” or “Elsa from Frozen!”

Hillary was a successful Senator and Secretary of State and I voted for her in the general, but she was there because of Bill.

Trump was famous from TV. Bush Jr. admitted in public that he was a governor (and thus later president) only because of name recognition.

LadyMarissa's avatar

Let’s not forget that Kanye West has already thrown his name into the mix. Then again he hasn’t claimed for which party. I would think that Trump vs West would make for an interesting election process!!!

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

The ex-ceo of Starbucks. Kevin Johnson

janbb's avatar

I’m betting that Paul Ryan, John Kasich and Jeff Flake will run against him for the nomination.

Darth_Algar's avatar

_ “I’m hoping Oprah will change her mind!!!” _

For the love of sweet baby Jesus, fuck no.

MrGrimm888's avatar

^Agreed. Not a fan…

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

Ok senators look under your chairs!

MrGrimm888's avatar

…and you get a car, and YOU get a car, and YOU get a car!!!!!!!

JLeslie's avatar

I thought at one time maybe Kristen Gillibrand would give it a try, I don’t know if she would win the primary if she did. I think Warren will try too. Both women bug me a little, but Warren bothers me more. I like the idea of Caroline Kennedy, but I heard she didn’t want to do it? I liked Tim Kaine too, but I guess he’s tainted now with his association with Hillary. Not tainted for me, I voted for her, but for many others.

I’ll tell you that I personally know people who were Bernie voters, who wound up voting for Trump. I don’t know how many of those are out there.

I think Ted Cruz or Paul Ryan might try to do something to prevent a second run for Trump. I do think Trump would have a good chance of winning if he ran again today, I’m not sure what the case will be in a year.

janbb's avatar

Caroline Kennedy has no real political experience; neither does Oprah. I should hope we’ve learned that celebrity is not a qualification for Presidency. If we were going for a Kennedy, I would go for Joseph Kennedy III who is a darned good representative with a lot of heart. But I think he needs more experience before a Presidential run.

I love Warren but she has said she won’t run and I don’t think the party establishment would pick her.

I’ve started having a lot of admiration for Senators such as Jeff Merkley of Oregon who have put themselves on the forefront of the immigration child separation crisis.

seawulf575's avatar

It isn’t just the candidate. It is the message. If all they have is “Hate Trump”, they are doomed to lose. People want leaders, not instigators. And wild campaign promises with no plans are the same old crap that people are tired of.

janbb's avatar

@seawulf575 I agree with something you said!! Red letter day. And your last statements hold true for both parties.

seawulf575's avatar

Thank you, @janbb. I certainly don’t feel the Repubs have any grand plans either. I would dearly love to get term limits on all of Congress so that they stop working for themselves and start working for us. With career politicians I feel that they get into party politics, trying to screw the other party and forget they are elected to lead a country.

ragingloli's avatar

“People want leaders, not instigators”
If that were true, the Orangutan would have lost in the first place.

JLeslie's avatar

@janbb I’m not pushing for Caroline Kennedy, but I think if she did well during some debates they could possibly market her successfully. She was an ambassador, and she is a lawyer. She certainly is around politics a lot. Back in the day I felt like Hillary being in the White House as First Lady counted for something, because to me she seemed like an involved wife in the politics.

Like Trump said in the past, (I’m paraphrasing) “convincing the public Kerry was a war deserter and Bush was some sort of grand supporter of the military was really amazing to watch, the republicans do it better, the democrats need to get better if they want to win.” Something like that. This was way back when Kerry was running for president, of right after.

My point is if the marketing campaign is good, if the press likes you, and if you just catch on publicly, it seems you can win. It’s like Jesus. A bunch of men were mailed to crosses, for some reason he caught on.

I saw Cynthia Nixon is running for Governor of NY. I have no idea what her chances are. I don’t know how well she is doing in the polls.

seawulf575's avatar

@ragingloli 75% of voters felt the country was on the wrong path under Obama. Hillary promised more of the same and acceleration down that path. That is why she lost. Besides, she scammed the DNC for the nomination in the first place. Dems have sold out to the swamp and that is what they need to fix.

Dutchess_III's avatar

No, she won, @seawulf575. This had nothing to do with the people’s wishes, and everything to do with election tampering. Hillary was prepared to uphold Obama’s policies and implement some portion of Bernie’s. She would have been a hell of lot better president than Cheeto.

seawulf575's avatar

@Dutchess_III there is a reason for the electoral college. It is to help represent the wishes of the entire country, not just NY, LA and Chi. Trump=304, Clinton=227. She lost. Time to move on. But polls indicated that 75% of voters did not like the path the country was heading under Obama. And as I and now you have said, Hillary was going to push that same agenda and hype it up. If they didn’t like it under Obama, what made Hillary and the DNC believe the country would like more of it?

MrGrimm888's avatar

Well. Trump.was supposed to start the term limits thing. I’m waiting….

stanleybmanly's avatar

yes, he’s certainly doing his best to limit himself to a single term.

MrGrimm888's avatar

Trump is often hard on professional athletes. I find it interesting that his behavior would likely mean he would never have a career in sports, as he would be suspended all the time. In other words, we hold them to higher standards than our nation’s highest office…

At this point, I can’t think of anything that would sever Trump’s supporters from him. And if, IF, he gets removed from office, I doubt he’ll go willingly…

seawulf575's avatar

@MrGrimm888 I would welcome term limits on congress. Unfortunately, it is beyond the POTUS to do that. It takes congress to draft and pass the law. They won’t do it…too much corruption.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

75% of voters felt the country was on the wrong path under Obama.

If that poll was in 2016 a huge number would be thinking of Trump’s success in the primaries.

MrGrimm888's avatar

@seawulf575 . Trump said he would do it. There is a path. He just has to ask how, and someone will tell him. He’s the POTUS… If he wanted to do it, he’d start whatever process. I think the term limits thing, was a lie… But I’d love to be wrong…

LadyMarissa's avatar

I think the POTUS should be restricted to one 6 year term so they doin’t spend half their first term thinking about getting reelected. They spend 2–4 years politicking to do their 4–8 year stint. Just give them 6 with NO re-up!!!

MrGrimm888's avatar

^I’m divided there…

I think part of the reason that GW got reelected, was people wanted him to clean up his mess. He started multiple military conflicts, and began running the debt back up.

So. I like the possibility of a second term.

As long as the electoral process is corruption free (lol,) and some type of term limit is imposed, a democracy should work for it’s people fine.

6 years though. Uugh. What if we were stuck Trump for that long?....

8 years can only come through reelection, and/or more Russian help…..

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

I think part of the reason that GW got reelected, was people wanted him to clean up his mess.

I have never heard anybody say anything like that about any election.

seawulf575's avatar

@Call_Me_Jay it was from July of 2016. I did exaggerate a bit. It wasn’t 75%, it was only 72%. Sorry. But basically, all conservatives and moderates felt it was going in the wrong direction. Only the liberals (21%) said it was going in the right direction.

seawulf575's avatar

@MrGrimm888 I suspect he has had those conversations (term limits) with some of the congressmen or senators. But he can’t do it alone. It will take, literally, an act of congress to get it implemented.

JLeslie's avatar

@LadyMarissa The problem with a 6 year term is it’s a long time if the person is awful. If the person is great maybe it will feel too short. I guess it could be simply no consecutive terms in either case? But up to 3 terms not consecutively. I can see the positive of the person not being able to run two consecutive terms.

Positives and negatives for both.

MrGrimm888's avatar

@Call_Me_Jay . Well. I heard it a LOT. maybe not in the same words, as “clean up his mess,” but many wanted him to finish what he started in the Middle East. I heard this from many of his supporters. Conservatives have since lost all ability to hold their guys accountable…
Just my observations…

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

Sorry. But basically, all conservatives and moderates felt it was going in the wrong direction. Only the liberals (21%) said it was going in the right direction.

You should provide a link.

Clinton won the popular vote. Trump won with only 27% of the eligible electorate.

Your numbers don’t jibe with that.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

Well. I heard it a LOT. maybe not in the same words, as “clean up his mess,”

As opposed to letting John Kerry fix things?

No, you did not hear that. Nobody thought forcing Jr to face his mistakes was better than bringing in an adult.

Bush Jr was re-elected because conservative believers turned out to vote, people who thought the Iraq war was justified by 9/11 and people who wanted more money shoveled to the wealthy.

MrGrimm888's avatar

Well. You can irrationally challenge what I’ve heard multiple times, and inject your opinion. That’s definitely one option….

JLeslie's avatar

@Caal_Me_Jay and people who believed Bush was a huge Israel supporter. The Evangelicals liked that, and a lot of Jews liked that. I was shocked how many Jews voted for him who I knew who weren’t typical conservative voters.

I do agree with you about the 9/11 Iraq thing though, even though at one point I heard out of Bush’s own mouth that he knows Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, but for some reason the media didn’t pick that up and talk about it for days on end. I can’t even remember who did that interview with him. I also don’t remember if it was his first or second term when I saw that interview. It definitely was not very early into the Iraq war.

The media also didn’t talk about the attack in front of the US embassy in Yemen while Bush was president. Even if they gave him a pass then, why weren’t we talking about that when Obama was running for office? That Bush’s record at protecting US citizens wasn’t as perfect as people think. No Americans died in that Yemen attack, but it was in front of our embassy, I don’t see how that wasn’t an attack on us? If that happened with Obama as president the right would have used it. If it happened right now the left would use it.

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