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flo's avatar

Is Nancy Pelosi sounding like she was drunk in the video fake news or not? See detail.

Asked by flo (12051points) 5 days ago

Facebook decided not to take it down.
https://tinyurl.com/y2v7ppon (Google/Washington post/Pelosi video)

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flo's avatar

Facebook says it’s because of “free speech”

Tropical_Willie's avatar

GOP is paying someone on Facebook.

SaganRitual's avatar

I am compelled to call it simple parody. I understand that it carries a lot of connotation, and it seems likely to have an enormous negative impact (according to her supporters), but really, it’s parody. Speed her up, she doesn’t seem drunk at all. Mr Giuliani could just as easily have tweeted that, and although the emotional effect would be profoundly different, there is nothing fundamentally different between speeding and slowing.

It certainly was a calculated move on the part of Mr Giuliani and his masters, with the intent of damaging Speaker Pelosi’s cause, but it’s still just parody.

stanleybmanly's avatar

The fact that the incident was doctored has rendered the effort another sordid failure. Of course it’s fake news!

filmfann's avatar

Since it is demonstrably doctored, it is a lie.
When you have to lie about the people you oppose, that’s an indication you’re wrong.

stanleybmanly's avatar

The question should be just how short on intelligence a low information individual must be to think Pelosi SO Inept as to appear drunk in public?

ucme's avatar

She looks demented at the best of times so…who knows?

stanleybmanly's avatar

Looks aside, she’s nobody’s fool!

flo's avatar

But how can Facebook has been taking down plenty of _ fake news_ content lately, but not this one which damaging in a concrete way
@SaganRitual Would you say the same thing if it were you, or someone you love?

stanleybmanly's avatar

The argument is that now that the scam is exposed, everyone should know that it is a fraud. There ARE of course those who will believe it true regardless of any and all evidence to the contrary.

flo's avatar

Not everyone would know it’s fraud. Far from it. Only the people who are informed know. If the people who don’t know heard that facebook is taking down fake news, but that one is still there, they may just think that it’s because it’s not fake.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Anyone who isolates themselves to dubious websites for their news is lost to hope. I mean even if you’re devoted to FOX the word is out on THAT network that the clip is faked.

flo's avatar

Everyone I wants all the fake news to be removed, that’s all there is to it.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Yes and we all want lemonade to flow from the taps at the sink, as well as a President who can read & write.

flo's avatar

Fake news.

SaganRitual's avatar

Hi @flo, I just now saw your response, “Would you say the same thing if it were you, or someone you love?”

Your subtext being that I’m either not thinking it through, or I’m being a hypocrite. But I’m not interested in talking about me. I’m boring. And, lucky for me, I don’t care what you think about me.

Anyway, “We’re all hypocrites. Don’t be a hypocrite about it.”—LoGoS 27:13

Peace and luck

flo's avatar

@SaganRitual Ok, let me make it: Would people who say that it’s satire, parody say that if it were them or someone they love?

SaganRitual's avatar

@flo The subtext is the same. It’s not curiosity. It’s a probe to check for hypocrisy, or to expose hypocrisy. But we (all of us humans) gain nothing by discussing hypocrisy, because we’re all hypocrites. Also, have you ever noticed how hard it is to get someone to see their hypocrisy, much less admit it—especially when you’re challenging them like that.

Hypocrisy challenges are divisive conversation-killers. Let’s talk about something that unites us, something that eases tensions and nourishes conversation. We’re both human beings, after all. We both like oxygen. Peace

flo's avatar

@SaganRitual You answered the question: “It’s a parody”. and there is a side that says ” Whether it’s a newspaper article with the words “Pelosi was drunk”, or on the internet on video, it’s the same it’s fraud/fake news”. That’s all there is.

flo's avatar

…A newspaper “Pelosi was drunk” would or can be sued for ”slander or libel”, or something like that.

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