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Will you be joining Jordan Peterson's free-speech-centric social media platform "Thinkspot"?

Asked by Demosthenes (12782points) June 13th, 2019

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Peterson touts the site as an alternative to sites like Facebook and Patreon, that content will not be removed unless a U.S. court orders it.

Are sites like these a solution to the pervasive censorship on traditional social media platforms?

(I expect a lot of one-word “no” answers, but I’d like more of a discussion, if possible).

Also, this is my 100th question. Yay Demosthenes!

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LadyMarissa's avatar

Even when I don’t agree with what people have to say I still believe that they have the right to say it…It also means that I have the right to NOT believe it!!! At this point, I doubt that I’ll be jumping on the “Thinkspot” train; but as a female, it’s my prerogative to change my mind. I have an open mind, so I’ll probably pop in once they are past the Beta version & are actually up & online. Then I will decide for sure whether or not I’ll be joining in!!!

ragingloli's avatar

I am willing to bet that there will be censorship, just in the other direction.
I have seen it before.
Stormfront, Sodahead, various right wing subreddits, including r/freespeech.

zenvelo's avatar

I won’t, because it says nothing about holding people accountable for their speech.

Without having to face people for your statements, it just becomes a troll and hate speech haven.

Demosthenes's avatar

@ragingloli That’s what I’m wondering as well. Is this just going to be a right-wing echo chamber that will feature the usual censorship, just in the other direction? I hope that isn’t how it turns out, because I am curious to join. I haven’t been “censored” on FB or any other social media, so I don’t have a chip on my shoulder, but the idea of the site sounds good on paper.

elbanditoroso's avatar

It’s going to be an echo chamber. People talking to themselves. They will never have enough diversity of opinion to make any sort of rational progress.

Sounds a nice opportunity for all the conservatives to masturbate together.

Demosthenes's avatar

@elbanditoroso Isn’t that what Fluther is, though, just for liberals? :)

Hawaii_Jake's avatar

Hate speech is not protected. I have no intention of opening myself up to more hate than I already see online. I will not participate.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

I never took Peterson as alt-right, just a moderate bullshit caller outer.

ragingloli's avatar

You mean *moderate bullshitter. Like Ben Shapiro.

SaganRitual's avatar

Well, I was going to join, but then I read this comment from Mr Peterson: “Even if you’re being a troll, you’ll be a quasi-witty troll.”

He totally stole that idea from me. I’ve always requested in hostile forums that if people are going to be mean, they should also be funny. If only I had a nickel for every idea that’s been stolen from me * cough * Al Gore * cough *.

Anyway, Mr Peterson has a challenge ahead that’s orders of magnitude harder than his free-speech policy: user privacy issues. Facebook has been around for ages, and they have a lot of money for attorneys and highly skilled security engineers, but they’ve struggled to get it right—with dubious success—for a long, long time.

I’ve heard that usually, the fastest way to make a small fortune is to start with a large fortune. I hope Thinkspot works out for him, and more importantly, I hope it turns out to be a net positive in the world.

Peace and luck

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

I think he underestimates the magnitude and viciousness of the trolls that will descend on this. If he wants ad revenue this will bring it though.

LostInParadise's avatar

I agree with @elbanditoroso . The site will probably be tilted toward conservatism, and I agree with you that Fluther tilts towards the left, which is fine with me, as long as we have at least a few people on the right to present alternative views.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

Since it’s a “subscription” I’d say it’ll be just that. I’ll take back my last comment too. A pay site won’t be so troll infested. I like Jordan Peterson, I may lurk on his new platform but it will be unlikely that I’ll join. I don’t like echo chambers.

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