Does it concern Trump voters that kids he separated from their parents are suffering in detention?

If you don’t like it press your rep to change the law

You can love the pres or hate him ( I don’t much like him) but he did not write the law

Unlike W and Pres Obama he has decided to enforce it. His call.

The president is not king

The problem is the number of Americans who slept through civics class and who apparently don’t know the difference between the legislative branch and executive branch

Just sayin

Actually, Trump ended this policy.

The entire question is moot.

@Yellowdog Bogus and lies but so is your hero. Executive order to separate immigrants never ended.

Your logic is moot and lacking.

The practice ended in June 2017 by a signed executive order, But there still are hundreds of children since 2014 who have yet to be reunited with their parents. Few of them remained in foster care, but struck it on their own

The responses are devoid of all compassion. He’s destroying us, destroying our humanity.

@Yellowdog is like Trump. Whatever he says – the opposite is true.

I would like to think that Trump supporters are ashamed. That the so-called Conservatives have seen how radically awful family separation has been. I would hope that they have consciences and that they are troubled by their support of such cruelty.

But I doubt that a single Trump supporter has felt an ounce of compassion. It is far more likely that their hate for brown people and Spanish-speaking people overrides any compassion they have.

All I can hope for is that then they end up in Conservative Hell, they suffer equally.

Your statement, “Whatever Trump says, the opposite is true” seems to be the reality you are content to live in, since nothing said about Trump thus far has stuck or been proved true or demonstrated to coincide with reality.

But the executive order was signed in June 2017. That’s pretty difficult to deny. Its pretty hard to re-gather all those illegal immigrants whose plan all along was to fan out and not be found.

I agree with every thing you said @elbanditoroso. You missed one thing. Not only are they brown but they’re poor and destitute and it’s their own fault because they’re stupid. If they were intelligent they wouldn’t be in that position.
So…trumpers don’t want stupid people immigrating into their country. Isn’t THAT ironic.

@josie Is it US law to cause kids to suffer? I can’t believe you’re simply saying change a law so trump would stop what he’s doing to these kids. If these kids ask you why this is happening to them that is your answer?

Trumpers, most, don’t care. The end, will justify the means.

How can some Americans still look at themselves in the mirror these days is beyond me. You know who you are.

Right? I’m just sick at heart and ashamed and I had nothing to do with this despicable administration coming to power.

Duth, and M88. Trumpers don’t see it that way. They see you as the problem.They see you, as sympathizing with what Trump, has convinced them, is the enemy.

@MrGrimm888 Isn’t that the same M.O. as Hitler in the Germany of the1930’s.

Tell them who is the enemy and round up “the enemy” and send them to the “Gas Chambers” !

IMO. Yes. It’s exactly the same. Inexcusable….

@elbanditoroso ”
But I doubt that a single Trump supporter has felt an ounce of compassion. It is far more likely that their hate for brown people and Spanish-speaking people overrides any compassion they have.”
I very much resent your sweeping attitude of all Trump supporters. My very close friend grew up in Mexico and is bilingual. No “hate“there. As for not feeling an ounce of compassion that is also very false.The man who mows our yard and his sweet wife are Mexicans. I have seen the crying little kids wanting their moms and have felt terrible sorrow for those innocent children. I am saddened by their parents’ decision to lead them to the border knowing what awaited them and hate to think what other kinds of neglect the children have suffered as result of their parents.
You sound like you have other life issues tormenting you enough to have such a low opinion of a large part of our population. If it makes you feel better just vent away.

^With all due respect. If you truly felt compassion, you wouldn’t support Trump…. You spit in the face, of the people that you claim to care about, by validating Trump’s agenda…

Parents taking their children to a place where they can have a better life? What horrible people. ~~~~

The parts of the US population, that support Trump, support the suffering of these children. It’s just that simple. You can’t have it both ways… Either you care about these people, or you support destroying their attempts at bettering the lives of themselves, and their children. There is NO grey area there. You should be “saddened.”

If I dropped any POTUS for something he had a hand in I’d never be able to vote again. The parents are not horrible people. They just are not thinking this out sufficiently or they’d not put their children in this nightmare. They tried.
Remember, “Johnson’s War?” or ‘Watergate” Obama’s “Bengazi” Kennedy’s “The Bay of Pigs?” I could go on but I guess you get the idea. I honestly believe that all Trump supporters are devastated by the conditions at the border.

You’re honestly mistaken.

Well, I admit I never conducted an interview but I certainly assume Americans care about little children crying for Petes sake.

@Aster You are sorely mistaken about Trump followers having compassion !
They cheer at his rallies about shooting immigrants.

REALLY? Worst I’ve ever heard crowds chanting is, “lock her up!” What was the chant about murdering immigrants? “Shoot on sight?” Never heard them or about this.
It is sobering to imagine 100% of Trump followers encourage murder of innocent people including babies and none have a shred of compassion. Wow. The things you learn on here!

It was in the Panhandle of Florida, someone said they knew how to take care of immigrants by shooting them, Trump smiled and the crowd went wild. The only thing that was missing was pitchforks, whites robes and hoods.

Terrible for those right wingers to behave like that! My Hispanic friend hated Florida and the way she was treated.

ok I thought you meant the entire crowd was chanting, “shoot ém!” It was one showoff wanting attention: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/05/09/trump-chuckles-shooting-migrants/1150160001/. So now the preposterous words of one person at one rally and , as alway, trump is blamed. Spin doctoring. BUT if one person at a Liz Warren rally yelled something like this? “Oh, that? It was nothing.”

Don’t pretend you care. You’re twisting something hateful up and repackaging it as “compassion,” @Aster. That’s what trump supporters do so they can live with them selves.

Dutch. You rarely disappoint. I agree, with your assessment of Ttumpers. They are cowards. Hiding their true beliefs, behind things like national security. Which, is clearly not the reason for their nationalism, or xenophobia…

And the people said “Amen.”

@Dutchess_lll In what way was I compassionate? Oh; in saying I cared about babies crying for their mothers. Well, ok. I am a coward who laughs at crying babies and I spit in peoples’ faces. Thanks so much. I’ve rarely sensed such a huge amount of pure hatred for any human being.
Does your venomous hatred extend to all conservatives? Maybe you should think about seeing someone in case he’s reelected for your own safety. Please consider it. There are many on here who would miss your posts.

Yes, @Aster the libs are wildly paranoid and blinded by hate. I know many Milllennials and Generation Z kids who really believe that you and America are a force of world evil, tyranizing the world. worse than Nazi Germany and deserving or causing terror regimes to rise up against us. They are wild zealots for their anti-American, anti-conservative cause. Trump Derangement syndrom will go for the books, if we survive this and if history isn’t scrubbed.

I don’t blame younger people for believing this, because it is in the textbooks, colleges, education system, Hollywood, social media, etc etc. But I do blame people like @Dutchess_lll amd @MrGrimm888 for perpetuating the hate, as they are old enough to know better and realize the irreversible damage they are causing to the fabric of the nation. And to you Europeans on the site, when the U.S. goes, you go too.,

Okay @Aster and @Yellowdog You can say Sieg Heil and everything will be perfect.

Your hero is an authoritarian wannabe dictator, who is in it for the money. He doesn’t care about you or your kids or grand kids, except for voting into President forever!

Actually, Trump has not been able to carry out much because of insurrection, has been under attack since months before the election, and waits for months for people, congress, to come to the table. Facts, @Tropical_Willie

You side with Iran. You are no better than them.

@Yellowdog Trump is stripping the defense budget to erect his phallic symbol across endangered property in Texas (I know no sweat off your brow because that in Texas)

You are projecting about supporting Iran, I think you like dictatorships even if the dictator doesn’t speak English.

He trashing the EPA so you won’t be able to breath fresh air, or drink clean water. LONG RUN THAT IS SUICIDAL !

You’re siding with a narcissistic pussy grabbing sixth grader.

Your last line says it all, about your position

YOUR HERO @Yellowdog ! PUSSY GRABBING !

12 year old is not a leader but an abuser !

“You’re siding with a narcissistic pussy grabbing sixth grader.” I second that.

Instead of fried eggs and wall and desperate posturing a TV celebrity should meet the innocent children he is victimizing for the sake of ratings.

https://youtu.be/szCTAATsTlY

He could compartmentalize the very presence, sight, sound of those children the way he compartmentalized the sad neglect and mental abuse he suffered as a child. That’s how he survived and his brother didn’t.

@Aster , and @Yellowdog . My parents, and I, traveled A LOT, when I was a child. One of my biggest fears, was being separated from them, in a country where I didn’t even speak their language. It would have traumatized me, beyond articulation, to be forced apart from them…

So. Yes. I feel VERY comfortable, by calling out people who support that. If you support Trump,IMO, you support the family separation. PERIOD.

Enjoy your less-brown country. But know you helped hurt thousands of children, and families, in the process.

I suggest, that you consider the horrible torture, you have inflicted on innocent people.

FACT.
Many, will never see their parents again. Regardless of the intention, those will be the ramifications. Sleep well…..

Uh, you ARE aware that Trump did away with that decades-old policy in June of 2017, aren’t you? That was two years, four months ago.

^^So what does that mean exactly? Nothing. There are still kids at this very moment being victimized by this deplorable TV host.

^Correct. The damage, has been done. Trump deliberately hurt thousands of people. Separated families, and there was apparently NO plan, to reunite the children, with their families. According to multiple articles from NPR, there are hundreds of children, who may never see their families again. Many parents, were deported, and the children were transferred to multiple holding facilities, where there is no records keeping, or way to know where everyone ended up.

“America is full.”- Trump. Yet. His wife’s mother, and close family, were allowed citizenship. Melania’s mother is only one year younger than Trump. Is she supposed to be a good contribution, to the country? Is she highly skilled? Nope. But she’s white, and Trump has proven, yet again his hypocrisy.

The legal means, of entering America, are not easy. Millions apply for citizenship, each year. Trump has reduced the number of people allowed to enter through the lottery system, each year of his rule. And has been quoted, as wanting 0, legal entries. That’s right, ZERO.

As diversity, is a strength, and birth rates, are on the decline, how is this strategy “making America great again?”...

The US, will end up, with a large senior population, and social security, is going to be gone. There will be no positive effects, from his isolationist, nationalist, and xenophobic agendas….

Most of those children never intended to be reuinited. The overwhelming majority came with individuals who were not even their parents, or came by themselves.

America lets millions of legal immigrants reside here every year. More illegal ones than that enter our country illegally,

Trump has eliminated the lottery system, and the Republicans have ALWAYS been highly critical of it.

I can assure you, Trump’s wife’s family are skilled, can support themselves, and are not a tax on the infrastructure.

@Yellowdog PLEEZE
“Most of those children never intended to be reuinited. The overwhelming majority came with individuals who were not even their parents, or came by themselves.”

Source or is this your opinion again. SMH

Proof again he hates people of color and thinks they are “nasty” like his opinion of Meghan Markle, the Duchess of Sussex.

So there’s no one in the trump organization who has the time to distinguish between kids accompanied by non-relatives and kids with their parents so the solution is just separate all kids from their adult companions? Which heartless animal of a human being thought of that approach?

Most adults claim certain kids are theirs. Then, the released kids come with other adults who claim them.

You aren’t keeping up with this, so, if you are trying to explain something to me, or make an example, you are WAYYYY behind in your knowledge.

It wasn’t too long ago that many of you were saying there was no crises at the border. and that Trump was lying. Now that the situation is undeniable, you are finding ways to blame that on Trump, also. Children who arrived here without parents, or who were separated, is an old story. The problem is, parents and children, with or without each other, flood the borders and only about half, or 4,000 per day, are ever apprehended. And they don’t remain in custody more than about three weeks.

There is no separation of children at the border, and this practice was discontinued by executive order just 4–½ months after Trump was in office.

Yeah deflect. This question is about separating kids from parents and the animals who gave the order and the animals who supported that brutality.

trump, session and miller maybe? If not for the condemnation trump wouldn’t have backed off but the malicious and cruel intent was clear. Only trump worshiping voters are immune to that shameful and evil truth.

Source @Yellowdog once again you are assuming and using your personal opinion to base your statements as FACT.

Your BOZO is a hero in his eyes and yours.

There have been no children separated from their parents at the border since an executive order was signed in June, 2017, by Trump, who was only four months in office, before ⅔rds of the media even picked up on the hysteria.

None of the previous three administrations touched the topic.

trump and sessions triggered the separate ALL kids from all companions regardless of relationship.

And how is that possible? The practice was decades old. Do you mean they had more to work with since the caravans? The caravans started coming in the fall or winter after the practice ended.

It’s the exact same practice? Are you sure about that? trump and session didn’t change anything?

The difference was, the democrats and your sources wanted the borders enforced until Trump was the one doing it. And there were far fewer charging the border before 2016.

Now, the goal has been, create as much chaos as possible to blame the chaos on Trump

Source again and not just your opinion ! ! @Yellowdog

Breitbart doesn’t count ! Because that is just opinions too ! No facts

trump and sessions are animals who wanted kids separated…especially from their parents for political gain.
Disgusting that some Republicans would vote for him again possibly just for doing that evil act of cruelty.

trump won on creating chaos which he to this very day is still doing thinking that would get him re-elected.

I suppose he fires missiles at airplanes passing the White House, too.

Evil and un-American. trump and sessions just couldn’t imagine these brown kids as white human kids deserving of compassion.

Real human beings love children they don’t know. Because they’re children no matter what color they are or where they come from or how they showed up at your doorstep.

@Yellowdog . Your claim of 4,000 people entering the US, and only half being apprehended, is an unverifiable number. There is absolutely no possible way, to know how many get through. Saying things like that, is why you are being asked for sources.

Your assertion that people only care about the border issue now, because of some conspiracy against Trump, is laughable. He only signed that EO, because of the backlash. He didn’t care about the children, or he wouldn’t have started enforcing it, to begin with.

I don’t think Trump is heartless. But he is clearly willing to go to any lengths, to stop brown people from coming here… Otherwise, as I’ve said before, he’d be trying to build a wall on the Canadian border, as well.
He doesn’t care about border security. He cares about keeping out brown people, and the cultures they bring with them.

Trump, and his supporters, are just afraid of losing their culture. Something that will happen anyway.
AND, you blindly have support for Melaniaia’s family being brought in. Even though the country is “full.”

I know, you have a good heart. I cannot overstate, how great a trait, that is. I commend you for it. But you’re allowing yourself to put it in the wrong place. Trump is feeding you these bullshit sandwiches, and you just won’t stop eating them. You’re better than that. And you’re intelligent enough, that you shouldn’t be one of his sheep. Please. Remember, that these are people, just like you. They only get one life, and they’re trying to make the best of it. You have a heart, and a brain. Use them. Right now, you’re being used. Stay woke….

5 million people flood in here illegally every month. THAT’S A FACT!

I think it’s 100 million. And. Most are criminals. FACT. ~

And it’s @MrGrimm888 for the win!!!

I think it is 2 quadrillion a minute.
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Maybe more.

And it’s @Tropical_Willie for the win!
Just don’t ask for his sources.

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4,000 people a day, is roughly 1.4 million a year. The countries they are coming from, already don’t have 1.4 million, to give away. Common sense, and a tenuous grasp of the world’s population, will tell you, that’s a fucking lie. And how could anyone quantify, who gets through unnoticed? Illegals, who enter undetected, cannot possibly be quantified. Trump tells them these things. Then they get upset, when people think their ill-informed, or gullible.
Know how to change that? Don’t be ill-informed, and gullible. The numbers Trump claims, are nonsensical bullshit. Trumpers, don’t believe the media, but they believe the nonsense he spouts. They sure are not helping the perception that they are idiots. They are confirming it….

@MrGrimm888 The numbers are from the Department of Homeland Security.

Why do you think only Trump is saying this?

Drop the logic @MrGrimm888. It does not work for dumpster idiots.

That’s the problem Dutch. @Yelloedog , isn’t a “dumpster idiot.” At least, not in my opinion.

Simple math, disproves the statistic he claims. I’m trying (probably in vein, ) to get him look at some real numbers. If his numbers were correct, there would be nobody left, in Central/South America. Yes. I’m using logic, and population, to get across my argument. If he spends a few minutes, on Google, he’ll realize, the impossibility, of the claims.

Venezuela, for example, has only e0 million people. That means that they would lose 20–30% of their population, in just 5 years, at the rate he is claiming. That is nonsensical. Other countries, from which we are receiving immigrants/refugees, have far less. The math cannot add up.

And as I mentioned, there is no way to verify, illegal numbers, that border patrol, knows nothing about. It is an obvious flaw, in the logic surrounding Trump’s claims… By that logic, the US, would have dozens of millions, of illegal immigrants, in a matter of just a few years. And. Since they cannot get jobs, or financial aid, without legal citizenship, it blows a large hole, in Trump’s administration’s claims. It’s just simple math, and anthropology…. The numbers mentioned, are NOT feasible…

@Yellowdog . “Why do I think Trump is saying this?” Because he feeds his base, on fear momgering lies. THAT, is a fact. He is making false allegations, to make you think we’re being invaded, by criminals. Which makes you afraid. And makes you think Trump, will save you. He’s playing you, like a fiddle….

Wake up man….

I’d like to see if there was an increase on the numbers of crossers after trump put his build a wall as a big issue during his campaign and after.

Before trump I’ve never heard of caravans or crisis or caging kids at the border.

I’m wondering if trump and his build the wall political play actually increased the number of crossers.

You put yourself in the shoes of people who wanted a better life and when you hear the border might be closing chances are that’s when you stop having seconds thoughts and just do it.

Obama deported a lot of them without demonizing them and coaxing out some Americans’ racist attitudes.

Obama sounded pretty much like Trump, actually. But to answer your question, there has been about a 400 percent increase,

The likelihood of the wall getting built, and all the freebies offered by democrats to those coming illegally to states as far away as New York, are the incentives. These numbers are needed to hopefuls who want to flip states blue, but the dems were livid at the suggestion that these illegal migrants awaiting hearings be sent to sanctuary states and cities.

Once again your line of thinking make sense to only you @Yellowdog !

400 percent! You have to give it to trump for creating the border crisis and then blaming the Democrats. No @Yellowdog only fools would buy that BS that it’s states like NY which led to that influx.

A stupid and cruel political move demonizing immigrants but effective in getting Republican votes and continued support.

Relevant.

I just read an article today, about a Mexican scientist, who found theoretical evidence of warp drive technology, back in 1994. Anot American NASA scientist, found his research, and they are currently trying to find ways to test it out. Think of all the great minds, that Trump, is keeping out…

Warp technologies, would change human space travel, and ultimately lead, to exponential change in human history…. The technology doesn’t exist, to power such technology, but, it will be a HUGE stepping stone in science. Diversity, is a strength…

They’re already coming over in warp drive, @MrGrimm888

Disagree. Your hero. Is labeling them all, as potential criminals. He is ignoring the fact, that ANY of them serve, as anything else than a plague on the nation. He is busy dehumanizing, the entire bunch of immigrants. And YOU continue to ear his bullshit sandwiches.
If you are truly a patriot, you would find his lies about numbers, and lies about who they are, as abhorrent, as most of us do. Like I said, you’re better than that. But here you are, spreading lies, and helping him use YOU, as a tool…

@Yellowdog
Are you going to hand him the second clip to kill more on 5th ave? ?

@MrGrimm888 He’s getting a wall built. Don’t think he ‘s exactly demoralizing anyone.

There are rapists in my neighborhood, but I don’t think everyone is. Still, I have walls,

So all the rapist in your neighbors Latinos ? ?

Or are they GOP/Conservatives ? ?

They are mostly Cenobites. Angels, to some. Coincidentally a homonym for Cinnabites at Taco Bell.

It’s been proven that a person ^can saw through his walls, in 30 minutes., with a cheap hack saw. It’s a fucking retarded idea. It’s at least 10,000 thousand year old technology. A $20 hack saw, can make short work of of it. Great idea, for wasting billions of dollars, and taking land from owners. It’s fucking retarded…. Yet again, you buy into the dumdassed idea. Please , open your eyes….

@MrGrimm888….deep breath. We can’t lose our minds over the stupidity.

It would depend, of course, on the hardness of the steel. The hacksaw blade would have to be much harder than the steel slats. And it would be very easy for the hacksaw blade to snap if it turned even a little.

I can break into a house, too—but the wall is more than a stagnant barricade. There is a lot of technology involved.

Watch what is currently happening on the border, where tens of thousands storm our border patrol and throw projectile objects. A border wall would come in very handy.

^Yellowdog . You can hack through a steel shot gun barrel, in under 10 minutes. That’s harder than Trump wall design. Why not build the wall, out of Lego Blocks? It’s a fucking retarded idea. It didn’t work, EVER. NEVER THROUGHOUT HISTORY. Why do think castles, became outdated /obsolete? You aren’t that stupid, so please, shut up.

How much wall that is new is being built? Or is it an already existing wall simply being reinforced or repaired? And how are they going to get the money to replace that which the reality TV host took from the military and schools(?)

What a sad desperate stupid move for sad desperate stupid votes!

Voters, ALL voters, have so many other things to be concerned about!

Castles became obsolete because of the invention of heavy cannons. I doubt anybody will be bringing cannons to bear on the wall. And we gotta start SOMEWHERE!

I’ll just leave this here…

A Trump supporter’s comment on WBUR’s website:

“ Consider that the Naturalization Act of 1790 restricted citizenship to “any alien, being a free white person” and was passed into law before the US Constitution was even ratified. Consider the writings of the Founding Fathers and you will see they were racially conscious and founded this country for white people. I don’t think they would be pleased that their posterity will be a minority in their own country in a few years.”

Here’s the link if you want to check (scroll to the bottom, look at the comments):

https://www.wbur.org/npr/766387410/democrats-prepare-to-subpoena-white-house-for-ukraine-documents

These are not atypical comments either.

^GA. But. I think the founding fathers, did the best they could. They tried to make the constitution as bullet proof as possible. And. They wanted/expected it, to be ratified with time, to keep it as balanced as possible. A lot of people seem to think, that impeachment, is a failure of the system. It isn’t. It actually shows that the system is working.

“Does it concern Trump voters that kids he separated from their parents are suffering in detention?”
It will when its THEIR own kids.
People are too far removed from feeling the effects, some have to have it happen to them BEFORE they experience compassion.

Well that’s the be all all of trump’s entire life. He never had to suffer. He got anything he wanted. He never wanted for anything.

Agreed. I don’t necessarily think Trump is evil. Just disconnected from reality. He could have nuked North Korea. He could have killed thousands of Iranian people. He’s not a monster. He just doesn’t “get it.”

He’s insane. He has no compassion (and any that has been displayed since he became a public figure was for PR. No skin off his back.)
I think the White House is circling the wagons to keep things under control….I think they have been since day one.

Trump, is just a crazy old rich guy. He doesn’t belong in office, but he’s just a disconnected fool.