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JLeslie's avatar

Do you want more information on the rioters and looters?

Asked by JLeslie (59527points) 1 month ago from iPhone

Not only rioters and looters invading protests, but a friend of mine has shown me reports of religious statutes being toppled in two different cities.

Are investigative reporters following up on these acts? Is the FBI going deep into who is leading, instructing, and even funding groups of people to swarm on cities?

I’ve seen mention of it being ANTIFA or alt-right groups, but no specific details.

Do you believe our FBI is working at getting to ring leaders and trying to find a way to implode the work of these people bent on creative havoc and destruction?

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hmmmmmm's avatar

I want more information on the cops that are attacking, arresting, and disappearing people in the streets.

@JLeslie: “Do you believe our FBI is working at getting to ring leaders and trying to find a way to implode the work of these people bent on creative havoc and destruction?”

The FBI knows who the cops are. They’re not going to do anything to these pigs who are bent on creative havoc and destruction.

si3tech's avatar

Do we not have information overload on rioters and looters? I, for one am not interested in the “reason” they think they have to carte blanche murder, maim, set fire to and destroy cities. Again this is the 2% thug population of our country wanting the 98% of population to cave to their whims, demands however important they think they are. It will never happen. 98% of our population is good people, law abiding patriots. This devastation is being carried out on the world stage!

JLeslie's avatar

@hmmmmmm I want those cops addressed also, but that isn’t the question at hand.

@si3tech It seems to me we have stupid overload of these incidents, but I want to know names, what the FBI found on the looters and rioters computers and smart phones. Is the direction coming from inside the US or outside, are these people well known criminals leading the way, can we trace it back to QAnon and get some of the people in charge arrested? Are there far left and far right groups on the net trying to take down the country, and do we have good information on the networks? What is their ultimate goals? Etc. etc.

hmmmmmm's avatar

@JLeslie: “I want those cops addressed also, but that isn’t the question at hand.”

Well, then that is a problem.

@JLeslie: ”...but I want to know names, what the FBI found on the looters and rioters computers and smart phones.“_

Are your reactionary calls for a strong police state borne out of mere curiosity?

@JLeslie: “Is the direction coming from inside the US or outside”

I’m blown away by this. Are you so isolated in your bubble that you don’t know any activists? These are my people. This is me and my friends years ago. The people rising up and taking to the streets are doing the heavy lifting for you and me and all of us. People who identify as anti-fascist should be the same people typing the questions and answers on this site.

@JLeslie: “Are there far left and far right groups on the net trying to take down the country, and do we have good information on the networks? ”

Remember – the exact concerns you are voicing now are the ones that came from those who opposed all uprisings, protest, activism, and civil disobedience throughout history. It might help to consider that you are now that person wondering why all of those pesky communist US-hating n$%^$&-loving people traveled to the south to battle segregation.

You’re on the wrong side.

JLeslie's avatar

@hmmmmmm Stop generalizing. I am all for protesting. I am all for putting horrible, brutal, racist cops around the country in jail. I know plenty of people who identify as ANTIFA who are not violent, I am not calling all of them violent and looters, but some of them have become unhinged like in any group this can happen. I do not support violence, looting, or destruction. I know instigating violence is a way to bring on change, but it is backfiring because it is not clear cut.

Martin Luther King, Jr. picked Selma, because he knew those racist cops were likely to be violent, but King did not have people on his side of the story looting, and breaking windows and setting fires. That is why it worked. I hope that ANTIFA is not doing those things. That is why I want to know the details. If it is all the Alt Right let’s get the nitty gritty information out. I see reports here and there, but we need court cases on TV. See them be prosecuted. Try to break down the cult.

hmmmmmm's avatar

^ But @JLeslie – your very concern about property damage and what the correct way to protest is the fuel that supports the status quo. I’m sure you’ve read about COINTELPRO, and you know that this stuff goes on all the time. This is why Nazis like “umbrella man” show up to break windows. They know that pearl-clutching is a tool the police use to gain public support for breaking dissent.

Maybe you should try to concern yourself with the injustice that is causing people to hit the streets in anger. You can watch cops smashing heads of people just standing around all day, but you come here to declare your hope that more cops can come and start publicly identifying people. If people need to be doxxed, it’s the police. They are the thugs out there doing the most damage, and they’re doing it against those who are braver than you or me.

You are on the wrong side.

JLeslie's avatar

@hmmmmm I didn’t say more cops, you did. I understand the dynamic, I am not an idiot. I want things to change as much as you do, but I do not want to give fuel to the Trump supporters and the crazy alt right.

hmmmmmm's avatar

@JLeslie: “but I do not want to give fuel to the Trump supporters and the crazy alt right.”

Adopting their framing is giving fuel to Trump and the facists.

si3tech's avatar

Guilty parties whomever they are and on whichever side need to be held accountable, prosecuted if appropriate.

JLeslie's avatar

@hmmmmmm How many Republicans are you friends and acquaintances with?

Demosthenes's avatar

To be perfectly honest, I don’t really care much about rioters and looters because it’s not happening right where I am and that’s how life works. If it were affecting me more directly, I might care a little more. I also know that the media makes it seem like the entire country is on fire when that’s far from the case. I’m never going to agree with looting and wanton property destruction, but I’m also not going to “vote for Trump because I’m scared of Antifa destroying the suburbs” or whatever BS is being peddled now. I’m more concerned about wildfires myself.

Yellowdog's avatar

@JLeslie So you actually believe “alt right” groups are siding with Black Lives Matter to kill cops and burn down cities?

The rioters and looters are proclaiming “Black Lives Matter” and are assaulting first responders.

JLeslie's avatar

@Yellowdog I do believe alt-right is smashing windows, stirring things up, etc. I’ve posted what @KNOWITALL copy pasted from social media of WS telling people when to invade the protests, to cover their tattoos, etc. There have been reports from some cities by local police that some arrests were WS.

seawulf575's avatar

I think there is a good story there to tell. I have heard many reports and haven’t verified the veracity of them all, but it sounds like a lot of the protesters, including the rioters and looters, are actually being brought in and put up at decent hotels. That means someone is bankrolling the whole thing. I, for one, would like to find out if these are true stories and if so, who is the sugar daddy.

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