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Is it the same as murder to let the death happen?

Asked by erebus9 (179points) May 5th, 2022

if you know that somebody is going to die, you know that they are going to do it… But you do nothing… Is that the same as killing them?

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cookieman's avatar

Do you mean if you know they are going to commit suicide? If so, then no, that is not the same as murder. Depending on the circumstances of the suicide however, and your role in it, I would expect to, at least, be questioned by the police.

elbanditoroso's avatar

Wasn’t there some recent case where a teenage girl basically goaded her teen age boy friend into killing himself?

Seems to me she got in a good bit of trouble.

jca2's avatar

@elbanditoroso: That’s the case that the mini-series “The Girl from Plainville” was made after. There was also a documentary on one of the evening true crime shows – 20/20 or one of those.

cookieman's avatar

I would hope the OP is not encouraging someone to commit suicide, but is aware that they wish to.

smudges's avatar

You asked the same question, almost word for word, one month ago. Also the question about the Nimzowitsch attack.

smudges's avatar

Do you also mean if someone is on life support and the doc is going to pull the plug? No, not murder.

Pandora's avatar

On a moral ground maybe, but I looked it up and it seems the only persons that are responsible to report a suicidal person are medical professionals. And I can see why. A regular person can always claim they didn’t take the individual seriously and thought they were trying to get attention or have always made these threats. Even if the person has the means to do it, it doesn’t mean anything. Anyone at any time can jump out a window to their death.
Teens can be so dramatic. I had a friend years ago who threatened to kill herself every time her boyfriend threatened to leave. Well, he broke up with her and stayed alive for years and had many boyfirends after that.
So my point is how do you really know? People say things they don’t mean all the time.
But murder isn’t quite the same thing.

To murder, I would think you have to be actively involved in the death in some way. Bought the materials for the person to commit suicide or provoke a mentally unstable person to do such an action and even give them ideas on how to do it.

But in this case, if a person is already on death row then I don’t see how it’s murder if the person merely knew about it.
But again, morally and legally are two different animals.
Simply knowing about something that may or may not happen isn’t murder.

Zaku's avatar

You don’t describe the situation much at all, but no, generally it’s not murder without you actively intentionally causing someone to die.

chyna's avatar

Maybe not considered murder, depending on if and how much of a part you played in it.
But I would have a hard time living with the guilt if I knew someone was going to kill themselves and I did nothing to stop it.

Dutchess_III's avatar

What if you see someone drowning and you don’t do a single thing about it, is that murder?

cookieman's avatar

@Dutchess_III: You mean like Phil Collins?

kritiper's avatar

No. To do so would be WAY to literal.

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

I had a vision of a neighbours death, but no idea how to prevent it. Behind my apartment is a dangerous back alley and it almost killed me when I crossed it without due attention and care last Thursday. Drivers use it as a short cut, and speed through it and have no clue that there is a pharmacy next to the alleyway.

I called city hall and reported the unmarked pedestrian crossing and I don’t know what else to do. I warned my neighbors as best as I could.

Did I commit murder? If someone gets killed or put in a wheelchair for life? From the hit and run? That hasn’t happened yet?

smudges's avatar

^^ One of the most commonly believed messages behind ‘In the Air Tonight’ is that Phil Collins wrote it about a man who could have saved another man from drowning but chose not to. It’s not.

https://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/11/phil-collins-did-not-write-in-the-air-tonight-about-a-guy-who-watched-another-guy-drown/

cookieman's avatar

^^ Exactly.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Gotcha.

Well, if you told me you were drowning
I would not lend a hand
I’ve seen your face before my friend
But I don’t know if you know who I am.

Inspired_2write's avatar

The Girl From Plainville ,
In real life, Michelle Carter never alerted the authorities, or his family, and thus was charged with Involuntary manslaughter.

Its more so in this case since she was the last person who knew what he was planning ,but did’t alert Police, Hospital, or Family to stop him from suicide .

Link to article:
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/culture/culture-news/a39611783/girl-from-plainville-explained/

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