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snowyowl_ecs's avatar

Is it humanly possible to imagine nothing?

Asked by snowyowl_ecs (417points) July 2nd, 2009

Seriously. If you try to think of what would be here is there was nothing, can you? Like, no universe, no planets, not stars… nothing. Can you? I can’t. I always think of blackness, but blackness is something.

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Jayne's avatar

It’s called being dead. Imagining nothing would mean having no activity in the part of your brain responsible for imagination, which will only happen once you have quit this mortal coil.

snowyowl_ecs's avatar

Not the lack of an imagination, but using your imagination to imagine what would be here if there was nothing.

Ivan's avatar

Is darkness something, or is it the lack of something?

snowyowl_ecs's avatar

Both. Darkness is something, but its also a lack of light.

Grisaille's avatar

@snowyowl_ecs Well, that’s a different question.

Put it this way; the absence of all color is darkness, but as you said – darkness is “something”, because human thought has given it meaning.

However, without human thought, both something and nothing would not exist, as they are completely human terms. There is no objective ruleset of the universe; we give it rational standards, rules, and and reason. We give it meaning, and without us to bestow definitions and words, there is no such thing as nothing. And something.

So in order for a human to envision pure nothingness, he’d have to cease being human, and cease to think.

snowyowl_ecs's avatar

But if you look at it like that, things that we don’t have words for don’t exist.

But I guess, because we know there are things out there that we don’t know exist, we know they exist…. hum?

Maybe I should buy a book or something to occupy my time.
New question: What book should I buy to occupy my time?

Grisaille's avatar

I’m going to have to disagree with you there.

Everything exists, regardless of whether or not we give it a title or reason as to why it exists. The universe would still be the “universe” if Earth was obliterated, it just wouldn’t have anyone around to call it “the universe.” It’d still function, expand, contract, etc – we just wouldn’t be here to experience it and, therefore, give reasons/names/titles/formulas as to why it does such things.

Book(s):

The Gaean Trilogy – John Varley

The_Compassionate_Heretic's avatar

that’s Zen in a nutshell

Grisaille's avatar

@The_Compassionate_Heretic Zen is my middle name.

No, seriously.

jpasq03's avatar

Maybe if you concentrate really hard.
Just kidding.

Jeruba's avatar

I agree with The_Compassionate_Heretic.

Learning how can take a lifetime.

SeventhSense's avatar

@Grisaille
However, without human thought, both something and nothing would not exist, as they are completely human terms

Everything exists, regardless of whether or not we give it a title or reason as to why it exists.
These contradictory answers point out the fundamental error of independent arising.
These must be propped up and once there is none to prop them up existence and non existence have no substance either.

SeventhSense's avatar

@The_Compassionate_Heretic
There is no nutshell and if there is, use the nutcracker.

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