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RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

Are we inside the black hole being sucked out, or outside the black hole being sucked in?

Asked by RealEyesRealizeRealLies (30954points) July 24th, 2009

Is it even possible to know? Common perception leads most of us to think we’re on the outside being sucked in. But demonstrative illustrations of the universe look more like a blobby balloon structure… How do we know we’re not on the inside of it being sucked outward?

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applesaucemanny's avatar

How do we know this is all even real? who’s to say you’re not imaginary, or I’m not imaginary? I don’t think we’ll ever know

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar


Well I know that I exist. If you don’t then whom shall I say just asked your questions?

applesaucemanny's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies what if I’m imaginary and you believe for me to be real?

dannyc's avatar

Some think life sucks, so you may be on to something here.

Sarcasm's avatar

“look more like a blobby balloon structure…” Were you David Tennant in a past life?

We’re on the outside.
But are we really on the outside?

evelyns_pet_zebra's avatar

Reminds me of the old joke, “There is no gravity, the earth sucks!”

atlantis's avatar

We are on the outside being sucked to another universe through a gateway we will not get out of in good shape. Check out anatomy of a black hole

Zendo's avatar

My girlfriend always hates it when people make fun of black hos and include suction in the same sentence.

ragingloli's avatar

i am not even sure that i exist. my thoughts may not be my own, but those of another being. i might be the result of someone else dreaming.

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar


Sure… then at least one of us exists… Me! And if one of us exists, then I have no reason to believe that two of us couldn’t exist. I certainly must weigh physical evidence against my existential need to have created you.

Physical evidence being the code you have authored to communicate with me.

Existential need being my desire for having someone besides myself to talk with.

Ultimately, upon the foundation of past experience, I believe that your comments can be traced back to an autonomous free will agent… that being you.

I have no evidence that I create characters in my mind to converse with. My psychotherapist who visits me once a month in the lock down ward at the funny farm doesn’t either. At least that’s what I created him to tell me…

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar


OK I know you don’t really believe that. I’ve heard that rap before and it just doesn’t fly… especially with you. Your comments have always been supported with hard evidence, or else you probably wouldn’t make them. I don’t believe you would make this latest comment without hard evidence of some sort to back it up.

ragingloli's avatar

all i am saying is that the line “cogito ergo sum” may not necessarily be true, as it assumes without backup that the thoughts it uses to conclude existence of A are that of A and not of a possible B.

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar


Stop teasing me… I’m very ticklish in that spot.

If it’s the thoughts of B then you are B wearing the disguise (perhaps unwittingly) of A.

Strauss's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies Are you sure there is such a thing as truly objective reality? What if the “common perception” is nothing more than a mutual mass projection?

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar


Is not that notion alone, that notion of of mutual mass projection, is not that notion in and of itself an objective reality?

I give a wide girth to “objective reality”, and resist the temptation to define it as one overall encompassing final authority. It seems to me, in fact to be, and assorted system of evolving contributions to the whole.

Regardless of how things actually are, or how we perceived them to be, projected, reflected, or completely undetected, if indeed they are that way, then that must be the way they are.

Ria777's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies: either option has it ass-backwards. why don’t you pick up a physics for beginners book and discover the possible answer. (I actually do know that possible answer, but I want you to do some research.)

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar


I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your desire to make new suggestions for my activity list. Likewise how disappointed I am that you choose this thread to do that with.

@Ria777 said:
“why don’t you pick up a physics for beginners book and discover…”

Because I felt like conversing with other people about things I find interesting. I can’t do that by picking up a book. You may notice that others have taken this question as an opportunity to explore ontological notions. I welcome all opportunities to explore critical thinking.

You are welcome to join the conversation and share your knowledge. You are not welcome to pursue a belittling and pointed agenda with me.

PacificRimjob's avatar

Are you talking about the US federal budget?

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