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Does anyone sell a modern flat-panel TV with a digital video recorder built in? With a VCR also built in?

Asked by Joe_Freeman (504points) September 18th, 2009

HD is not necessary but probably advisable. My goal is to have one integrated TV unit with one remote control and avoid cable hell. And yes, having the ability to record, or at least play, VHS tapes is desirable for my purposes.

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oratio's avatar

[Edit:] Jesus and his siblings! There actually is such a thing!

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I am going to get myself a strong cup of coffee now, and reconsider my universe.

sandystrachan's avatar

What a way to spoil a flat screen tv add a VCR , Convert all VHS to disk and use a dvd / blu-ray or console to play them . Or save the files to computer and stream it , saves on disks and clutter .

XOIIO's avatar

VHS tapes last years longer than DVDs

Joe_Freeman's avatar

@sandystrachan I expected such a reaction and was even going to add a disclaimer, but decided against it. The person in question is 85 years old and does not intend to spend his remaining years converting data formats. Furthermore, he does not use a computer. He wants an all-in-one device that serves his needs. I support this desire and am trying to help him. Answers like yours are not helpful. Answers like those from @oratio are very helpful. Just because VHS was, and is, a crap medium does not mean we can ignore its existence. This guy has tons of old VHS tapes and he wants to watch them, not spend his life converting them.

DarkScribe's avatar

Yes, they exist, but those with VHS will not be available new. I haven’t seen a new one since about 2002. My wife and I went through the same thing for my father-in-law not long ago – two problems, the simplified unit, and finding a programmable simplified remote control. We did it though. He has a large flat-screen (Plasma) with a VCR secured to the underside of its base – one remote for all of them. We still get the occasional call asking how to do something, but all in all it is working. I pre-programmed the system for all the shows that they like after changing the 250MB inbuilt recorder to a 1TB recorder. They seem happy.

The_Compassionate_Heretic's avatar

No. No one makes VHS players anymore. That technology has been obsolete for years.

CMaz's avatar

“a modern flat-panel TV with a digital video recorder built in?”

I always recommend to buy separate components. If one device goes bad. It all has to go to the shop for repair.
And, they are cheaper as a separated device then when part of the TV.

If my DVD player goes on the fritz I can replace it for $30. If it fails and is part of your DTV.
Going to cost you more the $30 to fix.

cwilbur's avatar

The problem with combined TVs (either flat-screen or tube) and VCRs is that TVs, with no moving parts, can have a usable life measured in decades, while even quality VCRs don’t generally last more than 3 years. And DVRs use consumer-grade hard drives, which also have a lifespan in the 3 to 5 year range.

The best long-term plan for this man would be to buy separate components. However, if he’s 85, he may be willing to gamble that a combo device will be around longer than he will.

ShiningToast's avatar

@oratio, @Joe_Freeman What oratio linked would be perfect, but I think it is just a flat screen and not a true flat panel. The difference is that a flat screen is a regular old CRT television, but its screen is completely flat for an increased viewing angle, so it is still really bulky and huge on the backside like a normal television (my friend said he got a flat screen, when I got over there it was a CRT tv with a flat screen). Now a flat panel would be the flat LCD or plasma television that we are all accustomed to now. Nothing against you, oratio, I just wanted to make sure Joe_Freeman knew what he was looking at. Great find by the way :).

[EDIT]: I just looked more closely at the listing on Amazon, and it is a tube television. So it it not a flat panel. Sorry oratio :[.

oratio's avatar

@ShiningToast Oh, I didn’t get that. Sorry. Maybe sandystrachan’s link is better.

ShiningToast's avatar

sandystrachan’s link is also a CRT television. I guess no flat panels with vcr’s :/.

Joe_Freeman's avatar

@ShiningToast Yes, I had noticed that as well, that it was a CRT-based model. Too bad. And it doesn’t even appear to be available anyway, at least, not new.

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