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Is it possible to be optimistic about 'Pessimism'?

Asked by lloydbird (8740points) September 26th, 2009

So many people seem to be so ‘down’ about our overall prospects of sorting ourselves out and getting our global act together. If you are one of these, how can you justify your position?
What is the point of your miserable, defeatist attitude?
What do you expect to achieve by your stance other than ‘Defeat’?
Don’t you think that a more ‘positive’ attitude might be of more benefit to your situation?
Do you really want to wallow in such a pessimistic approach to life?
Or do you want to push yourself to a more ‘positive’ and hopeful position?

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dpworkin's avatar

Is this a question, or a push poll?

gailcalled's avatar

Is this a “Loaded” question? Are you looking for an answer that “leans” one way rather than the other. Do all the quotation marks make your question (or diatribe) clearer?

eponymoushipster's avatar

i think it’s best to be “realistic”

jonsblond's avatar

@eponymoushipster beat me to it. I know many pessimists that say they are “realists”.

Blondesjon's avatar

Do you all realize that if each individual got themselves in order, regardless of their global outlook, the world would work itself out?

lloydbird's avatar

Well, let’s just see your approach by your answer, shall we?

kevbo's avatar

Pessimists are more incapable of imagining a positive response, so it’s not a matter of ambition to achieve so much as being incapable of imagining the option of something better. That’s the justification.

Optimists (or whatever you imagine yourself to be) IMHO are generally naive to some realities (or causes and effects, if you will) and often do no better in the effort to pave that road with their good intentions.

If you can’t see that you and the pessimist are part of the same creation (and orient yourself accordingly), you aren’t there yet.

filmfann's avatar

I am a pessimistic optimist. Things will get better, but not soon.

Blondesjon's avatar

@lloydbird . . . Realist=me=expect the worst and hope for the best

dannyc's avatar

Only when I am short on the market.

lloydbird's avatar

@kevbo I very much regard myself to be firmly within the ‘optimists’ camp and thus cannot be dissuaded. Lucky me!
Pessimists are just something that I have to endure (and work upon) because of my ‘positive’ position. Please excuse my ‘working upon’ activities, because they are well intentioned.

kevbo's avatar

Good luck!

Blondesjon's avatar

@lloydbird . . .Enduring Pessimists is a pretty pessimistic statement if I do say so myself.

The_Compassionate_Heretic's avatar

I’m optimistic that pessimism’s shortcomings will eventually be plainly seen by those who hold pessimism in high esteem.

As far as pessimism being “realistic” I think realism is a situational word that people use to justify their own particular perceptions of life and existence, but are not entirely accurate.

Blondesjon's avatar

@The_Compassionate_Heretic . . .You do realize that what you just said can be used as a template, right?

Just replace pessimism/optimism with Christian/Atheist or Republican/Democrat and it becomes interchangeable.

ratboy's avatar

The quality and scope of pessimism will increase as people are inexorably compelled by circumstances to abandon Pollyannaism. So, yes I am optimistic about pessimism.

lloydbird's avatar

@kevbo Thanks, but I’m very hopeful that I won’t need it.

janbb's avatar

I’d like to think so, but I doubt it.

wundayatta's avatar

I like my miserable defeatism. It makes things seem important. Then again, it makes everything seem funny, too. Out of misery comes laughter. I mean, what else can you do? When it gets that bad, it’s a challenge to take yourself seriously. Or, at least, that’s what happened to me.

I much prefer life when I don’t expect to get anywhere I was planning to go. When I take it seriously, I am inevitably disappointed. My desire is foolish, I think, because it makes me believe the delusion that I have any control over anything. And yet, my desire keeps me going—ever hopeful that one day, I might take a step closer to it.

Hah! Who am I kidding?

Bluefreedom's avatar

Pessimism + Optimism = Contradiction

JLeslie's avatar

@eponymoushipster I like your answer “realistic.”

I remember recenty seeing on TV that pessimists are better at managing their money. I could not find the exact info on line, but I found this small study shows pessimists are more likely to make more money http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/5919.php This one says pessimists do better in law school http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/news/2008_spr/monahan.htm

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