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Is it bad to give eevee a thunderstone at level 1 in HeartGold? (Pokemon question)

Asked by Vincent_Lloyd (3007points) July 13th, 2010

Hey guys my first gaming question. Um just with a concern on if it’s bad to give my level one eevee a thunderstone since I just hatched it from an egg I got. I was achieving getting my Vaporeon (which I got) so I could teach it surf. But my next is Jolteon and to learn charge beam. So is it bad to give my level one eevee a thunderstone?

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jfos's avatar

It probably won’t learn any moves. I would keep it as Eevee until about 25 or so… Don’t quote me on that.

I haven’t played that game in so long…

escapedone7's avatar

Oh gracious I feel so old. I have no idea what you just asked. Luckily I am watching my nieces and nephews right now. They are adorable but probably much younger than you so I hope they are right.
This is the answer from a very young pokemon player.

” I think joltean needs a TM to learn charge beam anyway. It won’t change anything if you give it now or later. ”

jfos's avatar

Wait… what the hell is HeartGold?

Mariah's avatar

Depends on what other moves you want it to learn. Eevee, but not Jolteon, learns Sand-Attack, Bite, Baton Pass, Take Down, Last Resort, and Trump Card, and Jolteon, but not Eevee, learns Thunder Shock, Double Kick, Pin Missile, Thunder Fang, Thunder Wave, Agility, Thunder, and Discharge. If you want your Jolteon to know any of the Eevee moves, you’ll have to wait until after it learns them to give it the thunder stone. And yeah, like @escapedone7‘s neice/nephew said, it won’t learn charge beam naturally anyway so it doesn’t make a difference for that particular move if you evolve it now or later.

dynamicduo's avatar

HeartGold is the remake of Gold, from the Gold/Silver generation. It’s actually quite a fun re-imagining of it, with the modern-day Pokemon technology added in (touch-screen control, a new sudoku-like minigame, wifi trades!).

As for your question @Vincent_Lloyd, I consult Marriland’s online pokedex entries for Jolteon and Eevee. Since your goal is to learn Charge Beam, the pokedex says that Jolteon learns it via TM57 whereas Eevee can never learn it, so there is no difference in terms of how fast it would naturally learn it (in previous games, less-evolved pokemon often learn moves at faster levels than evolved ones, but I’m not sure if this is right for this generation of game).

So the differentiator becomes, as @Mariah says, what other attacks you want your Jolteon to have, and whether you need to leave it as an Eevee until it acquires them or whether you need to evolve it faster in order to not miss the chance to learn the move. One important thing I’m thinking here is Baton Pass, which Eevee learns at 36. Since Jolteon is very very fast, you will likely be the first to attack each turn. Since Charge Beam raises one’s special attribute by a level, Baton Pass can allow the Jolteon to swap out with a different Pokemon but to keep that new pokemon’s Special attribute boosted, which can be a really really awesome and match-changing moveset, especially if your Jolteon is now up against a rock-type Pokemon and you have a water-type Pokemon in reserve.

Another factor to consider is whether you will use your Eevee/Jolteon in battles before it is ready or if you will wait and train it passively via the Pokewalker or Exp share. Jolteon’s stats are way better than Eevee’s, so evolving to Jolteon may be a proper decision to make if you intend to not go the Baton Pass route and instead go for a super duper electric fryer Jolteon. That way you will gain his electric movesets at appropriate times and be able to use him as a part of your Pokemon journey, and he/she will kick ass.

If I were in your shoes, and I have been as I totally made an Eevee army once, I would decide if I needed Baton Pass or not. Eevee doesn’t really have access to any other moves that would make a stronger Jolteon, so if I did not need Baton Pass I would evolve Eevee at Level 1 but I would probably put some strong electric-move TM on it at Level 1 since Jolteon learns Thundershock at 15, Thunder Fang at 43, the non-offensive Thunder Wave at 57 and finally Thunder at 71. In fact I would put TM24 (thunderbolt) or 25 (thunder) at Level 1, so that it can kick some serious ass and get up to the level 20s faster.

pitchtheview's avatar

If I were you, I wouldn’t give a level one Eevee a thunderstone that quickly, it should have time to learn some other moves and to get stronger.

But reading what @dynamicduo just said, I’m not sure what to say, haha.
Just do what you think is best :]

Vincent_Lloyd's avatar

@everyone :Thanks for the help everyone! But I knew that you couldn’t get charge beam by leveling it up already. I was aiming for a jolteon….Sort of like Volkner’s in platinum…maybe with out quick attack. But if I want to get the regular attacks like sand-attack, batton pass etc. then I should leave my eevee at the level it’s at then right? And if I want the special moves like bite, thunder shock, thunder wave etc. then just evolve it now?

Mariah's avatar

But if I want to get the regular attacks like sand-attack, batton pass etc. then I should leave my eevee at the level it’s at then right? And if I want the special moves like bite, thunder shock, thunder wave etc. then just evolve it now?

Exactly, except you put bite in the wrong group. Eevee learns bite, not Jolteon.

SuperMouse's avatar

My Pokemon addicted son says it is good. He says that if you give eevee a thunderstone at level one in heart/gold – while it is still in breeding – it will grow up as a jolteon.

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