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How do you pronounce Veni, vidi, vici ?

Asked by XOIIO (16868 points ) May 3rd, 2012 from iPhone

Just wondering.

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righty's avatar

I imagine it would be Venny, veedy, veachy.

ragingloli's avatar

ʋeni ʋidi ʋiki
Probably.

augustlan's avatar

Like this, apparently.

iphigeneia's avatar

waney weedy weeky

Not that I have the opportunity to say it very often. Now that I know about the labiodental approximant (thanks, @ragingloli) I must find a way to sneak it in to conversation so I can practise.

rebbel's avatar

Vennee Viddee Vitzee

whitenoise's avatar

@rebbel that’s the Latin of the church.

As @ragingloli and @iphigeneia suggested is supposedly the classical Latin way.

http://www.ai.uga.edu/mc/latinpro.pdf

prasad's avatar

I have a reader that says like veeny, veedy, veesy (s as in so).

ragingloli's avatar

One of the first thing I learned in my (short lived) latin class, was that ‘c’ is pronounced as ‘k’.
(that is how ‘Kaiser’ can derive from ‘caesar’)

poisonedantidote's avatar

Latin is a dead language so no one knows how any of it is pronounced, there is no correct or wrong way.

CWOTUS's avatar

In the usual way.

LostInParadise's avatar

venny veeny veechy Latin pronunciation is, not too surprisingly, very similar to modern Italian pronunciation

janbb's avatar

Well – that was conclusive!

whitenoise's avatar

@poisonedantidote
Actually there have been a lot of people that put a lot of effort into this and there is quite a uniform opinion that in classic latin ‘C’ was pronounced as ‘K’ (as the c in cot).

@LostInParadise That is Ecclesiastical Latin, not the classical way.

Sunny2's avatar

When we have time travel, that’s something we can get a definitive answer for. . .unless different parts of Italy have dialects, in which case, we still won’t know.

LostInParadise's avatar

Okay, Classical Latin Pronuncation In both classical and ecclesiastical Latin, the c sound is soft before i and e, just like in Italian. I would think that in the extensive collection of Roman writing, there would be some that give a guide to pronunciation.

gailcalled's avatar

My Latin teacher used @LostinParadise’s version.

DominicX's avatar

[ˈweːniː ˈwiːdiː ˈwiːkiː] in Classical Latin

[ˈvɛni ˈvidi ˈvitʃi] in Ecclesiastical/Medieval Latin

The two dots after the /i/ and /e/ in the Classical pronunciation represent long vowels, of which all of these words had two. The distinction between long and short vowels essentially disappeared in later Latin. The letter “v” represented a labial approximant in classical Latin, a.k.a. the /w/ sound (in Classical Latin, the letter V was written to represent both the vowel /u/ and the consonant /w/). The letter C was pronounced as /k/ in all circumstances in Classical Latin, and came to be pronounced as /tʃ/ (as in the English “church”) before front vowels, /i/ and /e/ in Medieval Latin. Likewise, consonantal V became pronounced as /v/ (as in English “vote”) in Medieval Latin, which gives us the modern Italian pronunciation.

Medieval pronunciation is the kind used in the Catholic church and the kind used by most people when referring to Latin in modern culture. But to be more accurate, since the quote comes from Classical times, the Classical pronunciation would be used.

digitalimpression's avatar

“I came, I saw, I conquered” ... because it’s easier to say than all that crap with the v’s.

Yetanotheruser's avatar

Since other flutherers have taken the technical road (GA, all), I will take the practical.

The quote is attributed to Julius Caesar, so it would be the classical Latin pronunciation. I would write it as wen-ee, weed-ee, wees-ee. Although I have more often heard it pronounced in the Church idiom as vay-ee, veed-ee, veech-ee.

When I studied Latin in high school, we used the “classical” pronunciation, with the “w” sound for a “v”, and the “soft c” (before “e” or “i”) was pronounced as an “s”. Later, when I entered a Catholic seminary, we used the Church/Medieval pronunciation, which, as @LostInParadise stated, is very much like modern Italian; the “v” is pronounced like an English “v”, and the “soft c” is pronounced like the English “ch”, as in “child”.

@Sunny2 , there were various dialects of Latin, and these evolved over the last 2 millenia into French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese and Romanian, and all their various dialects and variations.

LostInParadise's avatar

I found this link, which gives a good description of the various forms of Latin. According to the link, the c is classical Latin was always pronounced as a hard c. Note the pronunciation of Julius Caesar.

GracieT's avatar

Thank you, @DominicX & @Yetanotheruser! The Latin Student in me from a few years ago says GA!

zigmund's avatar

I say veedee, veechee, vehnee.

Skaggfacemutt's avatar

How do I pronounce them, or how are they supposed to be pronounced? :)

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