Why do people insist Charles Manson killed people?
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January 20th, 2015
He is a very Evil person, yes. But I watched all the television coverage at the time and not once did they say Manson killed anyone nor was he at the site of the killings. Am I mincing words or has he been mischaracterized?
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“Charles Milles Manson is an American criminal and musician who led what became known as the Manson Family, a quasi-commune that arose in the California desert in the late 1960s.
In 1971 he was found guilty of conspiracy to commit the murders of seven people, actress Sharon Tate and four other people at Tate’s home, and the next day, a married couple, Leno and Rosemary LaBianca, all carried out by members of the group at his instruction.
He was convicted of the murders through the joint-responsibility rule, which makes each member of a conspiracy guilty of crimes his fellow conspirators commit in furtherance of the conspiracy’s objective.” Source
His death sentence, later commuted to life imprisonment, was not handed down in a capricious manner.
People don’t insist he directly murdered anyone. Who is telling you that?
@zenvelo Articles always say, “murderer Charles Manson..” or even , “serial killer Charles Manson.” Need links?
It’s shorthand. Most adults know the story.
Think Hitler/Himmler/Mussolini etc
A lot of the younger generations only have heard that Charles Manson led a group/cult/whatever the hell you want to call it and that they were responsible for multiple murders. So only knowing that and not bothering to look into it deeper, they assume that Charles Manson had a direct hand in the killing of those individuals.
Legally, he is considered a mass murderer. Hence, the headlines.
Because his “family” did a very shocking crime at the time and because he duped nice clean white suburban girls to do his dirty work, society hate his guts, and to believe and propagate the idea he did some actual killing makes it easier to hater him and keep him in prison until he is mummy dust.
Insisting that he didn’t is like insisting that someone who poisoned some one else and killed them didn’t really kill them. The poison did.
Or someone who shot some one insisting that the bullet killed them, not them.
@gailcalled I think most recall the story who grew up around that time period but I bet that most don’t remember the details and I would hazard a guess that most later generations, unless the individual had developed an interest in that particular crime, have no idea that he did not physically commit the crimes.
It’s been years since I read about his family, but as I recall, he killed Shorty Shea.
Yes.
@Aster.
Charles Manson is just Misunderstood.
Since this is in Social, I feel I must ask…
Are you fucking serious?”
@Dutchess_III
Poison and bullets are inanimate objects that have no will and cannot act until somebody uses them. Those who killed for Manson acted of their own free will. Manson did not use them, they chose to act.
@jbstubro LOL !!! He’s a raving lunatic and is not fit to be walking the streets.
Those people choose to be the bullets for Manson, who was the gun.
Wow, that’s profound.
The point was that a bullet cannot be blamed for someone firing it. A person can be blamed for committing murder just because some half-bright, low-level criminal shithead told them to.
Did Hitler actually kill anyone?
^^ Himself & the atmosphere when he walked into a room at a party.
I don’t think Hitler directly killed anyone but he ordered his cronies the Nazis to do it.
Hitler was a head of state and had the power of his nation’s police and military to enforce his will. Manson was a two-bit crook and dealer with a few dipshit teenagers at his side. Not really a comparison there.
Actually, I didn’t know (or forgot) the story to the level of detail that he isn’t known to have killed anyone himself.
Given the general stupidity/ignorance/apathy/mischaracterization RAMPANT in modern US TV coverage and casual conversation, which I have noted throughout my life, I would say that this is yet another case of sloppy error and oversensationalism for the sake of selling TV entertainment and being able to feel like one understands complex difficult subjects by wrapping them up in small neat minimal symbols and not getting contradicted.
Which is also why, I would say, it is so easy for the US public to swallow utter BS to its own detriment, such as practically everything in US politics.
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